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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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If your buying this for HP gains NA...your barking up the wrong tree....

It provides a small improvement...but that's not what it was designed for
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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i agree with charles... i think that its a great thing that they have done and a giant step forward. the only reason i was so concerned about it is that i am going nitrous which means most of the time my car will be drivin without a power adder. Thus i was currious on what the effects were when not on the bottle. Eitherway i do not see how it would be a bad investment for anyone with an 8. sooner or later you will replace your coils anyway so why not upgrade to a top notch product.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Scott discussed the distinction in either his post with the dyno sheet or a post shortly afterward. Personally, I am not near as concerned with specific h.p. gains as much as having coils that will not show themselves to be the greatest impediment to further power development.
So it in fact has not been posted, dear god it has taken me 5 posts to get a simple question answered.

I just want the following before I fork over $600 in cash.

Pictures of the product, Dyno Sheet and specifics on the car that was tested (other modifications, ect...), that is it.

They have the Dyno sheets, they know what car it was tested on and they should have pictures since it is already in a couple of cars.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
If your buying this for HP gains NA...your barking up the wrong tree....

It provides a small improvement...but that's not what it was designed for
I understand that.

Just looking for validation of product, all the information should be easily available.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Shaun, with all due respect(which means I can say whatever I want and you can't be mad at me for it), I think Scott's posted dyno chart says all that needs to be said as regards N/A apps. Most of us have spent more for an exhaust system that gives us less useable gain, vanity or not.

I am also sure that those with power-adders will soon be doing A/B dyno pulls, too.
No problem. I was just thinking that when I get mine and install it I would do a side by side of my own as an additional data point. My coils only have about 1500 miles on them with my new motor, plugs, wires so I figured that would be about as good a comparo of what fresh stock coils can do vs. the upgrade.

It didn't take long for the naysayers to start pooping in this thread did it?
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
DD it has taken you 5 posts because your question could have been interpreted any number ways. I figured you were smart enough to have read all that Scott wrote on the issue before you started asking about numbers. Are you going to say that Scott's words are not as credible as his dyno sheets?

Phish, although factory coils are generally sufficient with nitrous to upgrade your ignition system to the best available options is preferred.
I'm saying I would like more details about a product before I just blindly hand over cash.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by laythor
yet another thing to add to the list of "buy after warranty runs out"
exactly my thoughts ... don't need it now but will definitely buy later this year (2008). thanks for the hp posts.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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real quick comment on dd's behalf ... some of you guys keep commenting on how good scott is and his company. with all due respect, i don't know him from adam. the fact that you guys know him and trust him is great, and it does make me more inclined to trust him and/or his product, but all i know from this thread is some guy named "scott" made something that he SAYS gained 11 hp but his dyno chart doesn't SHOW that he did ... this day in age i'd rather see it that just take his word simply because i don't know him, that's all ... not trying to hate, but just think of when you buy other things online from people you don't know or a company you've never ordered from -- i know i'm a lot more hesitant when there are no pictures of the product or the claims are different then the chart showing.

just my perspective ... thanks for all the comments and clarifications though.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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^^Feel free to do a little research.

Mazsport has a whole forum vendor section in this forum for his shop with all of his products and customers. PM some of them and read some of their product threads. No one's asking you to sign up with someone on faith. Just do a little research on what's readily available on this website and decide for yourself.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Look at the graph he posted....it's 10-15HP over some of the range......

7.5-8K.......20ish?

If your just looking for a Peak HP increase...you need to learn how to interpret a dyno plot
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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Actually the original post never marketed it as a HP increase... it was marketed as a soulution to the ignition problem to let the turbo increase the HP the car can put down instead of being limited to spark. it just got twisted into us talking about it adding horse on an N/A car
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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Here is the final dyno run after the brief cool down, sorry for the delay guys.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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This has definitely been added the Project8 wishlist! ha.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MazsportScott
Here is the final dyno run after the brief cool down, sorry for the delay guys.
Thanks Scott, could you send us a couple of pics so we know what it looks like and where it was relocated to?

On a side note if it is permited who's car was used? Just wondering what kinda setup they were running in addition to this.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 2tone
real quick comment on dd's behalf ... some of you guys keep commenting on how good scott is and his company. with all due respect, i don't know him from adam. the fact that you guys know him and trust him is great, and it does make me more inclined to trust him and/or his product, but all i know from this thread is some guy named "scott" made something that he SAYS gained 11 hp but his dyno chart doesn't SHOW that he did ... this day in age i'd rather see it that just take his word simply because i don't know him, that's all ... not trying to hate, but just think of when you buy other things online from people you don't know or a company you've never ordered from -- i know i'm a lot more hesitant when there are no pictures of the product or the claims are different then the chart showing.

just my perspective ... thanks for all the comments and clarifications though.

I know Scott, he is a good guy and he knows his RX's. I'm just more interested in the details of the product. I just might ask nopistons to pop his hood for me at the next meet.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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i didn't mean to upset anyone, i was just trying to give an outsider's perspective on how shady SOME sellers are on the internet.

shaunv74 -- i was just browsing this thread, i'm not in the market for this now -- but i always research products myself before i buy them, for a car or anything else, but keep in mind that is why this forum is here, so others can help answers questions more readily.

anyway, sounds like a great product, i look forward to getting it when i'm done milking my warranty!!
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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No shadiness from Mazsport....may have a bit of a staffing shortage
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 2tone
i didn't mean to upset anyone, i was just trying to give an outsider's perspective on how shady SOME sellers are on the internet.

shaunv74 -- i was just browsing this thread, i'm not in the market for this now -- but i always research products myself before i buy them, for a car or anything else, but keep in mind that is why this forum is here, so others can help answers questions more readily.

anyway, sounds like a great product, i look forward to getting it when i'm done milking my warranty!!
I do the same, I just like to see and know what I'm getting.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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i would also like to see pics...as my coils have already been relocated...
so, on that note, i wouldnt need longer wires...
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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^^ no but you would still need new wires ..different ends on the coils
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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what's the shipping like to Melbourne, VIC 3000, Australia?
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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i know someone posted this somewhere else. but would attaching a heatsink (like the ones used for graphics cards) onto the mounting bracket and using a thermal paste in between the two, make for even better cooling?

or it would it just be inconsequential?
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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Mostly inconsequential.
The bottom of the coil is resin, which is not particularly thermally conductive.
Moving the coils out of the wash from the rad fans would be more effective, though the thermal load is mostly and electrical issue, not an ambient heat issue.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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Does anyone know if this will work on European Rx8 ?

Thank you.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:54 AM
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