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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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just questions,,,,

hi scott, i decided to ask question in here.
last night, i put a turbo on, but the problem was in coils. we install the coils, it's started, but it didn't start the engine. i sounds going to satrt the engine but it didn't start. then we decided to gave a shot stock coils, it turned on immediately.
can you tell me what is going on with the upgraded coils????
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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^^ Huh? Could you elaborate a bit more......difficult to understand what you did
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
of coarse not!! lol temperature changes.. humidity changes everything has little factors in what number it throws down..

what ever number im pushing it is kinda low but when i see myself door to door with a 350z, g35 and mustang Gts i know something isnt right. haha those things are pushing more power more torque but sure they do weigh 300-400 pounds more lol.. but im no lightweigth either

Im 250 POUND 6'2'' guy



maybe the 8's are a freak of nature lol No clue
Freak of nature by using VASTLY MORE amounts of power to turn similar parts as other cars?

If you're door to door with a 350z, G35, and Mustang GTs, down the straights, they may be sand-bagging.

Originally Posted by RWagz
What I want to ask is has anyone performed an engine dyno on the Renesis?

If 250hp was a lie...who's to say that 232 wasn't also a lie?
Racing Beat and Hymee each got about 217hp at the crank, from what I recall.

250 wasn't a lie. 250 was right. When it was frying cats, mazda jacked up the tunes to bring the emissions into compliance. I think Mazda simply applied math to the revised figure without actually testing the engine.

Originally Posted by invasion08
232 iss at the crank not wheels
Why would you point that out? to whom?

Originally Posted by Rocketman1976
Mine made 171 and the air/fuel was terrible in stock form, but I did not pull the fuse, I actually forgot to even press the dsc button. The air/fuel did lean out after k&n filter and exhaust and it shot up to 188 rwhp with both of those. But 171 is ridiculous. I forgot to mention in was 90+ degrees out.
My car made 186whp on the same day, on the same dyno as a stock S2000 made 210whp. To me, that's evidence right there mazda is full of crap about their HP ratings on this car.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
^^ Huh? Could you elaborate a bit more......difficult to understand what you did
ok, we figure it out...

note: don't rely on the installation's pictures....make sure you know this wire diagram too when the installation happening..

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EM L1 Green => MS Grey / Red
T1 White => MS Grey / White
L2 Yellow / Green =>MS Grey / Black
T2 Blue / Orange =>MS 2 wires a red & Grey

As for the MS harness to NEW coils I was told by Scott the LAST connector goes to the FIRST coil (L1) and the others follow in order T1,L2,T2 Like the photo in post #431
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what happened with mine was the person who build up mine, putting the wrong order or wrong place of wire. my mechanic had to switch it around so it was installed according to wire diagram. so, mine would look like little ugly because it's backwards....but i don't mind as long as good quality.....
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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sandbagging?? what is that?

My car isnt stock.. ive got light mods but its enough.

I remember those pesky little EG hatches with GSR swap gutted used to hand my *** to me. like 1.5-2.0 car lengths now its .2 = a fender lol AKA DOOR TO DOOR. Hes just as fast as 350z's haha

sooo I dont think sand bagging or what ever it is justifies me being door to door.

I dont think s2k has anything on me.. but never ran against one
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
I dont think s2k has anything on me.. but never ran against one
A Stock S2K can beat any Bolt On modded RX8 (Maybe not with a INT x or a ECU Flash)
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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If that were the case it wouldnt be by much =P

Im serious i got a freak 8
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
If that were the case it wouldnt be by much =P

Im serious i got a freak 8
Dyno or Slips or it never happened
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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**** the S2000, lol. I hate convertibles, and a crappy interior. QS., would it be better to go with the Cobb AP, or the Mazsport Ignition, my car is running a Mazdaspeed CAI, Exhaust, and RP supercat. I will have both soon, looking for one at the moment for most gains and practicality.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by prospectjtaz
**** the S2000, lol. I hate convertibles, and a crappy interior. QS., would it be better to go with the Cobb AP, or the Mazsport Ignition, my car is running a Mazdaspeed CAI, Exhaust, and RP supercat. I will have both soon, looking for one at the moment for most gains and practicality.
Do you have any idea what this thread is about, or about any of the discussions?

You're going off on CONVERTIBLES? lmao
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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more importantly - why is the letter u so far away from q ? I mean they always go together so why make things so damn difficult ?!!!!!!
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
Racing Beat and Hymee each got about 217hp at the crank, from what I recall.

250 wasn't a lie. 250 was right. When it was frying cats, mazda jacked up the tunes to bring the emissions into compliance. I think Mazda simply applied math to the revised figure without actually testing the engine.
Seems irresponsible to market HP claims in advertising before R&D has completed testing of the car. Perhaps the ads were drawn up, the change was made...and they decided to run the ads anyway.

217hp seems right: 20% losses = 173.6, 15% losses = 184.45. Right in the range of what people are getting on the dyno.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:06 AM
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nope havent run against one YET. but srt 4's only beat me by 1.5 car lengths and bout 114 mph i start pulling it. they pretty quick in the straights hahaha.


I dont need dyno sheets to tell me or prove what my car can do..

my mods are

MS CAI, 9LB flywheel stronger clutch, sr power pulleys, greddy cat back. and all my fluids have been changes runnin royal purpel in the engine 5w-30, redline ligthweight gear oil 75-90 and same in the differential.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dmp

250 wasn't a lie. 250 was right. When it was frying cats, mazda jacked up the tunes to bring the emissions into compliance. I think Mazda simply applied math to the revised figure without actually testing the engine.
Nah - 250 was always a lie . We can hardly get that with all the bolt ons in the world . It is 232 that was right - before they detuned it to save the cats .....
But 215 is the "correct" number they should have advertised .
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:09 AM
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Idk which one yet i dont have none but i ordered my igniton upgrade my buddy has a mustang GT 2004 and we gonna run before install and then after forget number on a sheet i want to see what it does int he streets.. of coarse its not gonna be in the city theres actually a guy who owns a peice of land n he lets us use it soo its safe =]

im door to door with it but he does pull just a tad bit but practically nothing i make it up when he switches gears n im still pushin to 9K rpm =]]
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:11 AM
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Im thinkign the Hp rating was a lie but IONO i just got the car because i liked it =]]

none the less its still pretty quick car.. its not slow slow.. event ho nowadays sedans have more UMPH than the 8's but its all good.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
Im thinkign the Hp rating was a lie but IONO i just got the car because i liked it =]]

none the less its still pretty quick car.. its not slow slow.. event ho nowadays sedans have more UMPH than the 8's but its all good.
might you please stop crapping this thread!

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
Idk which one yet i dont have none but i ordered my igniton upgrade my buddy has a mustang GT 2004 and we gonna run before install and then after forget number on a sheet i want to see what it does int he streets.. of coarse its not gonna be in the city theres actually a guy who owns a peice of land n he lets us use it soo its safe =]

im door to door with it but he does pull just a tad bit but practically nothing i make it up when he switches gears n im still pushin to 9K rpm =]]
You should pull harder, No bog at pedal to the metal and I swear mine is quicker on the bottom end.

Still need a dyno run and track day to verify.

I did some calulations today and I believe with the correct mods we will have the same HP/weight as a stock Mustang V8 300 poine version.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:50 AM
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how am i crapping this thread??? lol

yea im hoping to get the response a little better.. right now its GREAt but it can get improvement. im running original coils.. i cant understand why so many peopel have gone through so many! i have 43K miles. i just changed my plugs 2K miles ago.. gas mileage increased.. but after i switched to heavier engine oil a while back it kinds dropped a bit. =[

yea.. im hoping to get more of a little UMPH from the car..
How can you check if your cat is going bad?? my neighbor hes got a 2004 n his cat went out at 60K miles.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:52 AM
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hey have any of you all noticed that our 8's kinda look liek turtles?? iono lol
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:52 AM
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There's a check engine light for that.

Edit: Try not to double post. (2 posts in a row). Follow the example of this post: edit original post and add to it.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:54 AM
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ohhh yea? so if its going bad the light will say its going bad!! change it soon!!

Or does it say

IT DONT WORK SERVICE IT NOW!!

Im asking how can you tell if its "about" to go



i can re edit?? im new to this site sorry.

Last edited by 05rx8mazda; Mar 17, 2008 at 12:56 AM. Reason: hmm editing??
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
might you please stop crapping this thread!

beers
+1 for the love of god! I swear things go a little sideways and the crazies all come out of the woodwork...
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:57 AM
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You won't. Check engine lights don't "tell you" anything. There is one light on the dashboard that is activated for numerous problems. The only way to tell which problem has tripped a check engine light is taking it to a mechanic, dealer, or by having a compatible scan tool.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
+1 for the love of god! I swear things go a little sideways and the crazies all come out of the woodwork...

WHY IS EVERYONE METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING?!?!?
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