First Supra 8 ever comingggg soon. ohhh yeahhhh no kidding
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Originally Posted by SickestRx_8ghini
just wait until you say the madness of the engine, and plus i wouldnt want to deal with the complication of the 20B motor, and when it comes to money, i dont care, i want something that nobody has and it will get more attention than your 20B motor
Look above my tailights, through the rear windshield, see me 
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I'm sorry, but I have to be honest with you. I commend you on what you are trying to do and wish you success. I must say I am embarrassed that you would take the rotary out of this vehicle and replace it with a piston engine. You should be ashamed of yourself disrespecting Mazda and its Royalty owners. It is no longer an 8, nor RX. Okay I'll be quiet, MAaNn. Again with all that was said I wish you success.
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Before you say that you're goin to beat our 20b RX8's, please finish you're project!
The other day at the race track it was a Supra with probably 100-150 hp more than my RX8,
nitrous, etc., etc. but he was making the same times as me with 93 oct gas, and my 8 was spinning the tires all the way on the first and second gear............
I really likes Supra's, one day I'm goin to buy a Supra, but I likes the car as a "complete" car. I wouldn't consider to put a rotary engine on a Supra.
Jose Vidro from Puerto Rico (second base of Washington Nationals) owns a 1,000 + Supra when they goes to the racetrack the car can't put that power to the street, the're times are higher than rotary cars with half of their power.
at the end of the day is you're money, make that dyno queen, but on the racetrack or street illegal races my money is with our 20B RX8's.
Manuel
The other day at the race track it was a Supra with probably 100-150 hp more than my RX8,
nitrous, etc., etc. but he was making the same times as me with 93 oct gas, and my 8 was spinning the tires all the way on the first and second gear............
I really likes Supra's, one day I'm goin to buy a Supra, but I likes the car as a "complete" car. I wouldn't consider to put a rotary engine on a Supra.
Jose Vidro from Puerto Rico (second base of Washington Nationals) owns a 1,000 + Supra when they goes to the racetrack the car can't put that power to the street, the're times are higher than rotary cars with half of their power.
at the end of the day is you're money, make that dyno queen, but on the racetrack or street illegal races my money is with our 20B RX8's.
Manuel
04-17-2006, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by yiksing
Why would you want a 500 HP+ car only to drive it slowly?
04-17-2006, 05:11 PM
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I will be posting pics pretty soon of my car and i am installing a Supra 2JZ motor in it. Its still in progress and should be completed within the next two months. Sorry cant write that much, i will be posting pics next week monday or tuesday.
That's like taking a supra and putting a rotary in it, it just doesn't belong.
04-17-2006, 05:38 PM
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Why does everyone have to slam this guy for wanting to do an engine swap? First of all, maybe he just wants to build the ultimate sports car, without any limitations - like the stupid idea that you should not put a piston engine into an "RX" car. He wants to have as much power as possible, and a nice looking car...so he picks a RX-8 for the looks and style(can we blame him? 
), and gets a very reliable engine that has proven it can get power easy. I'm sure there are plenty of people on this board that would love to sacrifice the "50/50" weight distribution for a metric fuckton of horsepower....I know I would.
GL on the swap
), and gets a very reliable engine that has proven it can get power easy. I'm sure there are plenty of people on this board that would love to sacrifice the "50/50" weight distribution for a metric fuckton of horsepower....I know I would.GL on the swap
04-17-2006, 05:45 PM
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SickestRX: Please understand that on a rotary forum you will get alot of negative comments from removing the very reason that many people own the car in the first place. It's natural so don't take too much offense to it. The point is that it's your car and if it's what you want to do then go for it.
Now saying that, I will agree with many of the points that have been said here. The Supra engine is very robust and capable of some very high peak power numbers when the boost is turned up. There are so many better engines out there that can run circles around it with less power though. If you actually want to make that engine work reasonable well instead of every single dyno queen Supra out there, there is one thing that you should do that no Supra owner has done. Get some long intake runners on that thing! The Supra just has a lack of space. The dyno queens may make 1000hp at 8000 rpm but if they are only making 300 at 5000 rpm, that's a pretty worthless powerband. Peak power means nothing if the average isn't there to reinforce it. If you can get some long intake runners on that engine, you might find that the turbo would spool up much faster and actually give a reasonably drivable powerband. And don't use such a large peaky turbo.
Those engines at 1000 hp really aren't that impressive. Sure they are unbeatable on the freeway but that's the only place they are of any good and even then not until 60+ mph. If you want a show stopper and all anyone will want to see is a Supra engine, go for it if it makes you happy. If you want a different engine in an RX-8 that is a show stopper that will actually have a wide powerband and be useful, try an LS1 with forced induction. The 2JZ isn't all that people make it out to be. Peaky isn't impressive no matter how high that peak is.
I'd still love to see the pictures of your progress though. You could definitely build that engine sensibly and have a very fast non peaky powerband. If you are shooting for the 1000 hp mark, it's going to be worthless though. Make it a show stopper based on it's actual performance and not only it's looks. Anything can look good sitting still. It's how well it looks in action that makes it impressive.
Now saying that, I will agree with many of the points that have been said here. The Supra engine is very robust and capable of some very high peak power numbers when the boost is turned up. There are so many better engines out there that can run circles around it with less power though. If you actually want to make that engine work reasonable well instead of every single dyno queen Supra out there, there is one thing that you should do that no Supra owner has done. Get some long intake runners on that thing! The Supra just has a lack of space. The dyno queens may make 1000hp at 8000 rpm but if they are only making 300 at 5000 rpm, that's a pretty worthless powerband. Peak power means nothing if the average isn't there to reinforce it. If you can get some long intake runners on that engine, you might find that the turbo would spool up much faster and actually give a reasonably drivable powerband. And don't use such a large peaky turbo.
Those engines at 1000 hp really aren't that impressive. Sure they are unbeatable on the freeway but that's the only place they are of any good and even then not until 60+ mph. If you want a show stopper and all anyone will want to see is a Supra engine, go for it if it makes you happy. If you want a different engine in an RX-8 that is a show stopper that will actually have a wide powerband and be useful, try an LS1 with forced induction. The 2JZ isn't all that people make it out to be. Peaky isn't impressive no matter how high that peak is.
I'd still love to see the pictures of your progress though. You could definitely build that engine sensibly and have a very fast non peaky powerband. If you are shooting for the 1000 hp mark, it's going to be worthless though. Make it a show stopper based on it's actual performance and not only it's looks. Anything can look good sitting still. It's how well it looks in action that makes it impressive.
04-17-2006, 08:45 PM
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I think you guys are being strung along here. How many weeks ago was it that he promised photos. First he didn't have a flash, then no film or whatever, then he was doing it in a few days. Come on now lets not continue this tripe and stop being stroked.
Don't humor him anymore until we get pictures. This guy is
One more thing, isn't the Zo6 a transaxial?
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04-17-2006, 09:40 PM
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I would imagine this project would take more than a "few days". Oh well.. im not gonna call BS because I don't really care what happens with this.
I think the reason he is getting flamed so hard is not because of his project, but instead its his attitude. Coming on here saying he's gonna have the most "baddest" RX-8 ever... is an extremely ignorant statement. I'm sure if he was more humble about it... he would get a better response.
-hS
I think the reason he is getting flamed so hard is not because of his project, but instead its his attitude. Coming on here saying he's gonna have the most "baddest" RX-8 ever... is an extremely ignorant statement. I'm sure if he was more humble about it... he would get a better response.
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04-17-2006, 09:44 PM
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^^^^^
correctamundo paul... nice job!!!!
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/photogallery/
would have licked a stamp and mailed it, but why??
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correctamundo paul... nice job!!!!
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/photogallery/
would have licked a stamp and mailed it, but why??
beers
04-17-2006, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael
I'm more surprised at how you can say one thing about a swap you're going to do and you can turn 40 year olds into children. I commend you on your ability to make fools out of every single person that has responded negatively to your aspirations.
Do you realize how idiotic you ******** look? Why do you think that it is the tendency of an RX-8 owner/future RX-8 owner to "Lurk" here for months on end before actually posting - it's because you have 15 immature adults gangbanging someone that they're jealous over.
If you take this to completion I think that it will be a unique automobile, and will fit YOUR purposes, not the ideals of those who are hating on you. I myself would spend the money on my house, but to each their own.
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Do you realize how idiotic you ******** look? Why do you think that it is the tendency of an RX-8 owner/future RX-8 owner to "Lurk" here for months on end before actually posting - it's because you have 15 immature adults gangbanging someone that they're jealous over.
If you take this to completion I think that it will be a unique automobile, and will fit YOUR purposes, not the ideals of those who are hating on you. I myself would spend the money on my house, but to each their own.
-Michael
04-17-2006, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael
1st> learn more about what you're talking about before you talk ****. A 4rotor is 2.6L by conventional displacement definitions for a rotary engine.
2nd> learn how to type correctly, or learn how to form sentences correctly, either one would help your post
3rd> he f****** stated that he's doing this for show and to be a dyno queen, he wants to do this.
I'll end my post with a quote by you:
"lol u obviously dont know anythin about the rotary engine" learn your facts or gtfo.
Edit: Doh dDub beat me to the whole 2.6 L argument. Either way dastallion951 or whatever his name is has no idea what he's talking about.
2nd> learn how to type correctly, or learn how to form sentences correctly, either one would help your post
3rd> he f****** stated that he's doing this for show and to be a dyno queen, he wants to do this.
I'll end my post with a quote by you:
"lol u obviously dont know anythin about the rotary engine" learn your facts or gtfo.
Edit: Doh dDub beat me to the whole 2.6 L argument. Either way dastallion951 or whatever his name is has no idea what he's talking about.
hahah damnnn michael, you are good. Thanks for all your support man, i really appreciate it, Rgonza said that he can boost his car anytime to 1400 whp, i think he is on crack.
04-17-2006, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Eightman1977
Okay I'm thinking to myself. If the RX8 is going to be a show car, then why spend so much money on building a 2JZ with that much and modifiying the RX8 to fit the motor. If you want to build something really unique then build an RX8 with an RB26DETT, make yourself an AWD 1,000 hp RX8. That'd be a lot more interesting then a 2JZ.
I'm currently in the middle of having my Renisis modified to handle 600 rwhp. Yeah it's been 8 months since the beginning of the project, but I also own 3 other cars so it's no big deal. You go ahead and build your 1,000 hp 2JZ RX8 and I'll build my 600 Renisis RX8 and we'll go to a track course and we'll see how many times I can lap you because of the massive understeer you're going to have, not to mention brake fade your going to experience if you do run a track course because of the added weight to the front. Don't get me wrong you're projects sounds great, but there are better options out there for engine choice.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/rx8-major-project-71935/
C.J.
I'm currently in the middle of having my Renisis modified to handle 600 rwhp. Yeah it's been 8 months since the beginning of the project, but I also own 3 other cars so it's no big deal. You go ahead and build your 1,000 hp 2JZ RX8 and I'll build my 600 Renisis RX8 and we'll go to a track course and we'll see how many times I can lap you because of the massive understeer you're going to have, not to mention brake fade your going to experience if you do run a track course because of the added weight to the front. Don't get me wrong you're projects sounds great, but there are better options out there for engine choice.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/rx8-major-project-71935/
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04-17-2006, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by swoope
until i see a photo of your rx8 with an empty engine bay and a inline 6 on a hoist above it this whole thread is----
BSBSBSBSBS!!!!!!!!!!
beers
BSBSBSBSBS!!!!!!!!!!
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you wil see the pics tomorrow before 8 p.m. pacific time
04-17-2006, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by yiksing
You can't put 500 HP+ on the ground if your car cannot handle and a front heavy car doesn't handle and brake as well unless you spend more.
04-17-2006, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8PR
Before you say that you're goin to beat our 20b RX8's, please finish you're project!
The other day at the race track it was a Supra with probably 100-150 hp more than my RX8,
nitrous, etc., etc. but he was making the same times as me with 93 oct gas, and my 8 was spinning the tires all the way on the first and second gear............
I really likes Supra's, one day I'm goin to buy a Supra, but I likes the car as a "complete" car. I wouldn't consider to put a rotary engine on a Supra.
Jose Vidro from Puerto Rico (second base of Washington Nationals) owns a 1,000 + Supra when they goes to the racetrack the car can't put that power to the street, the're times are higher than rotary cars with half of their power.
at the end of the day is you're money, make that dyno queen, but on the racetrack or street illegal races my money is with our 20B RX8's.
Manuel
The other day at the race track it was a Supra with probably 100-150 hp more than my RX8,
nitrous, etc., etc. but he was making the same times as me with 93 oct gas, and my 8 was spinning the tires all the way on the first and second gear............
I really likes Supra's, one day I'm goin to buy a Supra, but I likes the car as a "complete" car. I wouldn't consider to put a rotary engine on a Supra.
Jose Vidro from Puerto Rico (second base of Washington Nationals) owns a 1,000 + Supra when they goes to the racetrack the car can't put that power to the street, the're times are higher than rotary cars with half of their power.
at the end of the day is you're money, make that dyno queen, but on the racetrack or street illegal races my money is with our 20B RX8's.
Manuel
my rx8 with that supra motor will be lighter than a supra and it is fully rebuilt engine with mad sponsors, i wouldn't be surprised if it hit 1200 hp and your bussy rgonza said he can boost his rx8 with 20B to 1400 whp, let me tell he is is bullshitting yeah he can boost it up to 1400 whp for what 2 Seconds!!!!!! and the engine will blow up
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Originally Posted by RX-Hawk
Why does everyone have to slam this guy for wanting to do an engine swap? First of all, maybe he just wants to build the ultimate sports car, without any limitations - like the stupid idea that you should not put a piston engine into an "RX" car. He wants to have as much power as possible, and a nice looking car...so he picks a RX-8 for the looks and style(can we blame him? ), and gets a very reliable engine that has proven it can get power easy. I'm sure there are plenty of people on this board that would love to sacrifice the "50/50" weight distribution for a metric fuckton of horsepower....I know I would.
GL on the swap
), and gets a very reliable engine that has proven it can get power easy. I'm sure there are plenty of people on this board that would love to sacrifice the "50/50" weight distribution for a metric fuckton of horsepower....I know I would.GL on the swap
04-17-2006, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
SickestRX: Please understand that on a rotary forum you will get alot of negative comments from removing the very reason that many people own the car in the first place. It's natural so don't take too much offense to it. The point is that it's your car and if it's what you want to do then go for it.
Now saying that, I will agree with many of the points that have been said here. The Supra engine is very robust and capable of some very high peak power numbers when the boost is turned up. There are so many better engines out there that can run circles around it with less power though. If you actually want to make that engine work reasonable well instead of every single dyno queen Supra out there, there is one thing that you should do that no Supra owner has done. Get some long intake runners on that thing! The Supra just has a lack of space. The dyno queens may make 1000hp at 8000 rpm but if they are only making 300 at 5000 rpm, that's a pretty worthless powerband. Peak power means nothing if the average isn't there to reinforce it. If you can get some long intake runners on that engine, you might find that the turbo would spool up much faster and actually give a reasonably drivable powerband. And don't use such a large peaky turbo.
Those engines at 1000 hp really aren't that impressive. Sure they are unbeatable on the freeway but that's the only place they are of any good and even then not until 60+ mph. If you want a show stopper and all anyone will want to see is a Supra engine, go for it if it makes you happy. If you want a different engine in an RX-8 that is a show stopper that will actually have a wide powerband and be useful, try an LS1 with forced induction. The 2JZ isn't all that people make it out to be. Peaky isn't impressive no matter how high that peak is.
I'd still love to see the pictures of your progress though. You could definitely build that engine sensibly and have a very fast non peaky powerband. If you are shooting for the 1000 hp mark, it's going to be worthless though. Make it a show stopper based on it's actual performance and not only it's looks. Anything can look good sitting still. It's how well it looks in action that makes it impressive.
Now saying that, I will agree with many of the points that have been said here. The Supra engine is very robust and capable of some very high peak power numbers when the boost is turned up. There are so many better engines out there that can run circles around it with less power though. If you actually want to make that engine work reasonable well instead of every single dyno queen Supra out there, there is one thing that you should do that no Supra owner has done. Get some long intake runners on that thing! The Supra just has a lack of space. The dyno queens may make 1000hp at 8000 rpm but if they are only making 300 at 5000 rpm, that's a pretty worthless powerband. Peak power means nothing if the average isn't there to reinforce it. If you can get some long intake runners on that engine, you might find that the turbo would spool up much faster and actually give a reasonably drivable powerband. And don't use such a large peaky turbo.
Those engines at 1000 hp really aren't that impressive. Sure they are unbeatable on the freeway but that's the only place they are of any good and even then not until 60+ mph. If you want a show stopper and all anyone will want to see is a Supra engine, go for it if it makes you happy. If you want a different engine in an RX-8 that is a show stopper that will actually have a wide powerband and be useful, try an LS1 with forced induction. The 2JZ isn't all that people make it out to be. Peaky isn't impressive no matter how high that peak is.
I'd still love to see the pictures of your progress though. You could definitely build that engine sensibly and have a very fast non peaky powerband. If you are shooting for the 1000 hp mark, it's going to be worthless though. Make it a show stopper based on it's actual performance and not only it's looks. Anything can look good sitting still. It's how well it looks in action that makes it impressive.
04-17-2006, 10:34 PM
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my rx8 with that supra motor will be lighter than a supra and it is fully rebuilt engine with mad sponsors, i wouldn't be surprised if it hit 1200 hp and your bussy rgonza said he can boost his rx8 with 20B to 1400 whp, let me tell he is is bullshitting yeah he can boost it up to 1400 whp for what 2 Seconds!!!!!! and the engine will blow up
are you building anything???? have you built anything... you are having people build stuff for you right????
so you know what they can do? before you start telling rgonza what he can do and for how long you need to think a bit.
you have not even managed a photo... you cant even do that.
and if you are going to do this, by all means good luck.
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
I think you guys are being strung along here. How many weeks ago was it that he promised photos. First he didn't have a flash, then no film or whatever, then he was doing it in a few days. Come on now lets not continue this tripe and stop being stroked.
Don't humor him anymore until we get pictures. This guy is
One more thing, isn't the Zo6 a transaxial?
weeks???? wtf i just posted this 2 days ago
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Originally Posted by SickestRx_8ghini
hahah damnnn michael, you are good. Thanks for all your support man, i really appreciate it, Rgonza said that he can boost his car anytime to 1400 whp, i think he is on crack.
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He's got attitude, I'll give him that. But dude you need to be a little bit more humble and a little bit more respectable towards other people. Okay let's start over again here guy. What are you building the car for? Dyno Queen, 1/4 mile, AutoCross, Daily Driven, what is the purpose behind the car?
Next with the Supra engine, wouldn't the length of the engine (beings it's a straight 6) have cause for him to cut into the fire wall? As far as transmissions go, I would do a 3 speed dogbox. Also if you plan on doing 1,000 hp+ you'll need custom rear axles to hold that power. Otherwise you'll be snapping them like toothpicks. Then if you're going this far into the project you may want to do a completely different rear differential. You'll need a custom driveshaft made, and with all the differences in the drivetrain you'll need a custom made support brace that connects from the rear differential to the transmission. You'll also be looking at custom made motor mounts. These are just a few things that you need to take into account. Just make sure this is exactly what you want, because it's gonna cost a lot of money and if you don't like it afterwards then ya can't get your money back.
C.J.
Next with the Supra engine, wouldn't the length of the engine (beings it's a straight 6) have cause for him to cut into the fire wall? As far as transmissions go, I would do a 3 speed dogbox. Also if you plan on doing 1,000 hp+ you'll need custom rear axles to hold that power. Otherwise you'll be snapping them like toothpicks. Then if you're going this far into the project you may want to do a completely different rear differential. You'll need a custom driveshaft made, and with all the differences in the drivetrain you'll need a custom made support brace that connects from the rear differential to the transmission. You'll also be looking at custom made motor mounts. These are just a few things that you need to take into account. Just make sure this is exactly what you want, because it's gonna cost a lot of money and if you don't like it afterwards then ya can't get your money back.
C.J.