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Old 04-16-2006, 11:10 PM
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hey to be honest man if u wanna be cool n have a 2jz powered vehicle supras right now r still aroudn the money of an rx8..........y did u buy an rx8 if u planned on swappin out the motor for another manufacturers engine......idiot...........ur what i call a ricer!lol u obviously dont know anythin about the rotary engine.......do like someone posted if u want power...........check it out man, a 20b is a 2.0 litre engine.........now if i remember right a 4 rotor is i believe a 3.4 or a 3.5 litre engine.......ok u compare a stock 4 rotor engine to a stock 2jz, n the 4 rotor will tear its *** apart.......now upgrade them both......the 4 rotor will go toe to toe with it HP wise..........yet be easier to tune.........will prolly fit easier in the engine bay, with a bit of modification still possibly be able to retain ur 6 speed tranny from ur rx8 with the 4 rotor........dont be an idiot a 2jz would be cool in ur rx8.......dont be a ricer.
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
hey to be honest man if u wanna be cool n have a 2jz powered vehicle supras right now r still aroudn the money of an rx8..........y did u buy an rx8 if u planned on swappin out the motor for another manufacturers engine......idiot...........ur what i call a ricer!lol u obviously dont know anythin about the rotary engine.......do like someone posted if u want power...........check it out man, a 20b is a 2.0 litre engine.........now if i remember right a 4 rotor is i believe a 3.4 or a 3.5 litre engine.......ok u compare a stock 4 rotor engine to a stock 2jz, n the 4 rotor will tear its *** apart.......now upgrade them both......the 4 rotor will go toe to toe with it HP wise..........yet be easier to tune.........will prolly fit easier in the engine bay, with a bit of modification still possibly be able to retain ur 6 speed tranny from ur rx8 with the 4 rotor........dont be an idiot a 2jz would be cool in ur rx8.......dont be a ricer.
First, yes technically the 20b is considered a 2.0L but it is not the same as a 2.0L piston in any way. Measuring a rotary in the same way as a piston just doesn't work, hence why they use turbos meant for larger displacement engines.

Second, think about it. If the 13b is a 1.3L, and a 20b is a 2.0L, why would a 4 rotor be 3.4 or 3.5L? It's not, a 4 rotor with 13b rotors is a 26b, or a 2.6L

Third, a 20b can make 1000hp, there's a 20b FD guy trying to build a 1000hp street driven car. So you don't even need a 4 rotor.

However, I do agree in making fun of him, so good show
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
hey to be honest man if u wanna be cool n have a 2jz powered vehicle supras right now r still aroudn the money of an rx8..........y did u buy an rx8 if u planned on swappin out the motor for another manufacturers engine......idiot...........ur what i call a ricer!lol u obviously dont know anythin about the rotary engine.......do like someone posted if u want power...........check it out man, a 20b is a 2.0 litre engine.........now if i remember right a 4 rotor is i believe a 3.4 or a 3.5 litre engine.......ok u compare a stock 4 rotor engine to a stock 2jz, n the 4 rotor will tear its *** apart.......now upgrade them both......the 4 rotor will go toe to toe with it HP wise..........yet be easier to tune.........will prolly fit easier in the engine bay, with a bit of modification still possibly be able to retain ur 6 speed tranny from ur rx8 with the 4 rotor........dont be an idiot a 2jz would be cool in ur rx8.......dont be a ricer.
1st> learn more about what you're talking about before you talk ****. A 4rotor is 2.6L by conventional displacement definitions for a rotary engine.
2nd> learn how to type correctly, or learn how to form sentences correctly, either one would help your post
3rd> he f****** stated that he's doing this for show and to be a dyno queen, he wants to do this.

I'll end my post with a quote by you:
"lol u obviously dont know anythin about the rotary engine" learn your facts or gtfo.


Edit: Doh dDub beat me to the whole 2.6 L argument. Either way dastallion951 or whatever his name is has no idea what he's talking about.
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I neglected to think about the monsterous lag. If he is all about show and what not then i still think the 2jz is a good choice. Everyone is shouting dyno queen but really thats the point of this project, so i think he is getting the job done. haha If he wants to race then thats a different story really. Does anyone think the LS engine would fit, not to mention all the turbo accessories.
Most likely yes. I doubt you'd really need a turbo though, with a nicely-built LS2 making a nice, broad, average hp numbers. I can't really imagine putting 500 hp to the ground in this car, the turbo guys already have trouble taking full advantage of output in the low 300 range. If you just had to have a turbo setup though, I'm sure you could fit the STS turbo that was designed for the LS2 powered GTO.

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I'm more surprised at how you can say one thing about a swap you're going to do and you can turn 40 year olds into children. I commend you on your ability to make fools out of every single person that has responded negatively to your aspirations.

Do you realize how idiotic you ******** look? Why do you think that it is the tendency of an RX-8 owner/future RX-8 owner to "Lurk" here for months on end before actually posting - it's because you have 15 immature adults gangbanging someone that they're jealous over.

If you take this to completion I think that it will be a unique automobile, and will fit YOUR purposes, not the ideals of those who are hating on you. I myself would spend the money on my house, but to each their own.

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I can understand the desire to do an engine swap, I just don't understand *this* engine swap. The Hinson conversions have the same weight and weight distribution after the swap, will this one? To each his own of course.

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hey to be honest man if u wanna be cool n have a 2jz powered vehicle supras right now r still aroudn the money of an rx8..........y did u buy an rx8 if u planned on swappin out the motor for another manufacturers engine......idiot...........ur what i call a ricer!lol u obviously dont know anythin about the rotary engine.......do like someone posted if u want power...........check it out man, a 20b is a 2.0 litre engine.........now if i remember right a 4 rotor is i believe a 3.4 or a 3.5 litre engine.......ok u compare a stock 4 rotor engine to a stock 2jz, n the 4 rotor will tear its *** apart.......now upgrade them both......the 4 rotor will go toe to toe with it HP wise..........yet be easier to tune.........will prolly fit easier in the engine bay, with a bit of modification still possibly be able to retain ur 6 speed tranny from ur rx8 with the 4 rotor........dont be an idiot a 2jz would be cool in ur rx8.......dont be a ricer.
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Originally Posted by BaronVonBigmeat
I can understand the desire to do an engine swap, I just don't understand *this* engine swap. The Hinson conversions have the same weight and weight distribution after the swap, will this one? To each his own of course.
Yeah, I don't defend the practicality, just his right to do what he wants to his own automobile, without being harassed by the rest of the community.

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Okay I'm thinking to myself. If the RX8 is going to be a show car, then why spend so much money on building a 2JZ with that much and modifiying the RX8 to fit the motor. If you want to build something really unique then build an RX8 with an RB26DETT, make yourself an AWD 1,000 hp RX8. That'd be a lot more interesting then a 2JZ.

I'm currently in the middle of having my Renisis modified to handle 600 rwhp. Yeah it's been 8 months since the beginning of the project, but I also own 3 other cars so it's no big deal. You go ahead and build your 1,000 hp 2JZ RX8 and I'll build my 600 Renisis RX8 and we'll go to a track course and we'll see how many times I can lap you because of the massive understeer you're going to have, not to mention brake fade your going to experience if you do run a track course because of the added weight to the front. Don't get me wrong you're projects sounds great, but there are better options out there for engine choice.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/rx8-major-project-71935/

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Sure he has the right to do what he wants, but if he's going to post about it and make it public knowledge he must be prepared for some people that dislike or disagree with it.
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Sure he has the right to do what he wants, but if he's going to post about it and make it public knowledge he must be prepared for some people that dislike or disagree with it.
I agree with this as well. But don't you find it degrading that your contemporaries act like children, and this in turn reflects on you as a member?
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I gave up on caring after being a member on rx7club for over a year before getting my rx8. Think it's bad here? Nowadays every forum on the internet, especially car ones, are like this.

Oh well, roll with the punches eh?
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I dont get this, I know straight line performance is important but for me I will say, whats the point of having something like that when u cant even drive it more than an hour a day with all sorts of fixing/cooling/waiting ?

seriously can any autos on earth beat the speed of even an old Boeing 737 ? talking about horsepower here huh ?

Im not really interested in this STUPID project. SEMA car show wow. I think I'll go next year's SEMA and if your "2jz X RX8" is there, I will just think

*This car looks like his owner, aka trash*

Dyno queen huh .... of what ?

should the Dyno chart called

"Highest RX8 HP" ?

I dont buy that, since its not even Rx-8 anymore, forget about Renesis for now, its not even Rotary. GTFO of here.

enuff said.

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I agree with this as well. But don't you find it degrading that your contemporaries act like children, and this in turn reflects on you as a member?

are you serious???

get f'ng real
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until i see a photo of your rx8 with an empty engine bay and a inline 6 on a hoist above it this whole thread is----

BSBSBSBSBS!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Eightman1977
You go ahead and build your 1,000 hp 2JZ RX8 and I'll build my 600 Renisis RX8.

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=71935

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sorry seen photos of that project.... what is your issue with that and what does it have to do with this???????

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"Weight distribution" and "handling" are the only real arguments I see coming from the naysayers in this thread. What about the fact that he will have at least a 500HP+ RX-8? It would be one hell of a sleeper to pull up next to. But the fact is not everyone likes the RX-8 for its handling and 50/50 balance, some like the way it looks and its styling, and thats really about it. I agree dropping in a non-rotary engine totally kills the point of buying an RX-8, but who here wouldn't be tickled to death of having a 500HP RX-8 parked in their garage?
You can't put 500 HP+ on the ground if your car cannot handle and a front heavy car doesn't handle and brake as well unless you spend more.
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You don't need brakes on a dyno.

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Why would you want a 500 HP+ car only to drive it slowly?
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Originally Posted by mike1324a
The 2jz is a good block that can be boosted like no other. This thing is going to be more for show then racing anyway. I say 2jz is a good choice if you want insane power. The LS2/7 are good and with simple both ons are even better but you just dont see that many 1000hp vettes like you do 1000hp supras (not like there that many of that either). Are the even any 1000hp vettes? I figure there are but i dont know of any. The guy wants 1000hp so why not go with the engine that is known to hit that mark. So again i say 2jz was a good choice all the way.
You can do that on a Ford 4.6 MOD V8. Wish i had the magazine on hand, but either in Muscle Mustang and Fast Fords or 5.0 Mustangs and Super Fords there was a 1000hp twin turbo Mach 1 Mustang. The current 2005/2006 Mustang GT will push nearly 500hp with just a Kenne Bell S/C. For all it's negatives, in capable hands, this motor can push some power...
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Every time you type out a jumbled AOL-speak post like this, God kills a kitten.

Please. Think of the kittens.

I decided to not post anything serious on this thread because of the lack of intelligence, but my god is that funny. Just to let you know, at some point in my life, I will steal that.

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he never answered my question on what the plan was with the rest of the drivetrain and chassis to make it survive the engine. Guess you don't have to worry about all that when you only idle it in and out of the floor at some car show ...

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then you can't be a dyno queen supr-a-hole

hey, i've seen a few of the 4.2's hold down 1000+ hp. dump some race gas in if you wanna go for the big numbers. and you'll get a buttload more torque than the 2jz!! the thing has just under 300 lb-ft n/a bone stock, so imagine what some boost would do to it!

no replacement for displacement not to mention it's relatively new technology...not 10+yrs old.
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Good luck...

You defete the entire purpose of owning a ROTARY powered vehicle... but good luck.

Sorry to see you gave up on the most unique part of your car.
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DONT DO IT, YOUR 8 WILL BLOW UP IF YOU PUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN ROTARY IN THERE!!!!

at least I wish that was the case...
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i thought our front fenders was the most unique thing about our car? hahaha
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