Blackenedwings Franken-turbo install thread
01-04-2009, 03:56 PM
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Went for a long drive on back roads tonight to try out the new intake, its pretty cool. I will write a review on it actually, but I'm happy with it thus far. The MAF readings seem a bit more sensitive (or something) than the OEM air box as I see more fluctuation on AFR. Everything seems to be at the same ratios it just fluctuates and updates more. When I am off throttle I actually see it update several times before it pegs 20.3 AFR which would normally just peg lean immediately after throttle off. The intake is stock quiet under 4k rpms, but at WOT above that it sounds... um, noisy. It sounds like a jet is trying to take off out of my hood actually around redline.
01-04-2009, 09:23 PM
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Well I went out and put the car through it's paces today, but I noticed a couple of odd things since the intake went in. When I was installing the intake I had my buddy at the garage clean out the throttle body with throttle body cleaner and swabs and he pulled a fair amount of gunk out. Either because of the intake install or the throttle body cleaning I noticed a very weird smell in the car today after I ran it pretty hot. I can't even really describe the smell, it was ...weird. It was in the cabin both times after I drove the car pretty hard today. I checked the engine bay but I didn't see anything noticably out of place and all my diagnostics through the AccessPORT look good. AFRs are acceptable, water temp, no codes thrown.
I did notice the throttle felt a little different today too, almost like the vibrations from the CAI were vibrating down to the pedal. I don't know, I'm so sensitive to any changes in the car that I think I would notice even the tiniest thing. Acceleration seems normal, I'm hitting all the right speeds at the right RPMs. The AFRs do seem different, mostly updating faster, much more sensitive, but at idle it sits slightly richer than normal (14.5) for a few seconds before settling down to 15.0 AFR.
I did notice the throttle felt a little different today too, almost like the vibrations from the CAI were vibrating down to the pedal. I don't know, I'm so sensitive to any changes in the car that I think I would notice even the tiniest thing. Acceleration seems normal, I'm hitting all the right speeds at the right RPMs. The AFRs do seem different, mostly updating faster, much more sensitive, but at idle it sits slightly richer than normal (14.5) for a few seconds before settling down to 15.0 AFR.
01-07-2009, 12:17 PM
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Connect the oil fill line that connects to your CAI to a Catch can. You can get them cheap on ebay, why would you want to chance spitting oil through your TB, probibly what the gunk was from. Happened to me, and alot of people. if you overfill your oil, the blowback goes into your Intake. just cap off the nozzle end of the intake, then connect a catch can to the oil filler cap line, and then the other side of the catch can to a breather. Your car will thank you 
01-07-2009, 04:20 PM
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Thanks marcux, that sounds like a good idea. Any oil catch can should do right? Doesn't GReddy make a pretty cheap one?
Anyway, turbo news, I will probalby be changing the title of this thread soon... I've been having some chats with a few people on here about my setup and it looks like I will probably be selling my 2871R in favor of a MM upgrade 3071R. Although the 2871R will probably work fine for the car, I don't feel like doing all the other work that Jeff has done with his upgrade kit from the ground up. I will also feel a tad more comfortable knowing other people have tested the kit out extensively. The only downside is that I will not have the turbo installed as quickly as I had hoped because I have to get in line for the upgrade. More news as I get it!
Anyway, turbo news, I will probalby be changing the title of this thread soon... I've been having some chats with a few people on here about my setup and it looks like I will probably be selling my 2871R in favor of a MM upgrade 3071R. Although the 2871R will probably work fine for the car, I don't feel like doing all the other work that Jeff has done with his upgrade kit from the ground up. I will also feel a tad more comfortable knowing other people have tested the kit out extensively. The only downside is that I will not have the turbo installed as quickly as I had hoped because I have to get in line for the upgrade. More news as I get it!
01-07-2009, 07:06 PM
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If I can sell my 2871R (posted on eBay this morning) then it's a no-brainer. If for whatever reason I cannot get a buyer then I go to Plan B which is to keep the 2871R and start piecing together all the bits that come with the upgrade. The fittings, restrictor, flanges, and replacement pipes etc are worth buying the upgrade for me because I don't want to have to get all of that crap myself.
01-07-2009, 07:46 PM
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01-07-2009, 08:21 PM
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And machine the compressor housing backplane.
And reshape the inlet flange bolt holes for offset.
And port the inlet to match the new flange.
And port the discharge to match the new discharge flange.
And fabricate a custom wastegate actuator bracket.
etc...
Its also an .85 A/R, but a 90 trim wheel (56.5mm).
01-07-2009, 08:28 PM
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Yeah, I don't really want to do all of that either even though I have an available machine shop and an eager (read: crazy) friend who could do it.
01-07-2009, 09:15 PM
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Yup. Updating the first page of the thread shortly.
01-08-2009, 07:07 PM
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Alright, the first page is updated. I did a lot of thinking the last couple of days and I decided that although the 2871R would probably work just fine for what I want, it would require me to worry about fitment and fab work that I don't feel like dealing with. Honestly for me, it's a big enough leap going FI without having to worry about fitment issues because of my attempts to fabricate bits. For someone more comfortable or excited about doing those pieces the choice wouldn't be so clear cut, but I decided I wanted to go with the MM upgrade. My wife thought it was a good idea (I have a kickass wife) so my order should be in this weekend.
I have my Racing Beat midpipe and a Turbo XS oil-catch-can on the way which I will be putting in within the next week and a new tune coming for my AEM CAI, then I have to start the gauge install so I will have plenty to keep me busy until the Satan's Hairdryer gets here.
I also put a link to a FS thread for the 2871R that I was originally going to use on the first page of this thread. If there is anybody out there that doesn't mind the fab bits, I'm not asking a whole lot for it.
I have my Racing Beat midpipe and a Turbo XS oil-catch-can on the way which I will be putting in within the next week and a new tune coming for my AEM CAI, then I have to start the gauge install so I will have plenty to keep me busy until the Satan's Hairdryer gets here.
I also put a link to a FS thread for the 2871R that I was originally going to use on the first page of this thread. If there is anybody out there that doesn't mind the fab bits, I'm not asking a whole lot for it.
01-09-2009, 09:27 PM
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01-09-2009, 09:47 PM
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In all seriousness I was in close contact with Jeff, and he said that I have like 4 people ahead of me in the list, but he is cranking them out and I would have a delivery within 8-12 weeks. It delays my original install date, but no complaints here as it will give me plenty of time to get the rest of the car sorted. I will hopefully be getting a well known name or two from the forum to help me with the install too... more info when I find out for sure.