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Old 09-27-2006, 12:46 AM
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but this is quite related, seeing as we're discussing a critical component to the AF SC for the auto variety, thus expanding RP's scope of support as well as furthering the technology's R&D...
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o rly,

ok, carry on... i guess all the other ems solutions that he has will not work...

let the guy finish the job....

got to walk before you can run....

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well...yeah, but he said himself the auto needed a manifold and that he wasn't producing it... just trying to help out with a cost effective solution that works for everyone, you know? o.o;

with that said, we'll see what the shop says.

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Old 09-27-2006, 01:20 AM
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Why couldn't you just use his 6 port upper manifold and bolt it onto the 4 port lower manifold? Just block off the passage that would go to the auxiliary ports on the other engines. I don't see the issue with using his kit on any engine.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Why couldn't you just use his 6 port upper manifold and bolt it onto the 4 port lower manifold? Just block off the passage that would go to the auxiliary ports on the other engines. I don't see the issue with using his kit on any engine.


Will that work???????
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Why couldn't you just use his 6 port upper manifold and bolt it onto the 4 port lower manifold? Just block off the passage that would go to the auxiliary ports on the other engines. I don't see the issue with using his kit on any engine.
As always rotarygod comes and saves the day...

Frynge, I guess no world RX-8 4 port manifold domination for you now. LOL
Old 09-27-2006, 10:13 AM
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So the numbers Richard mentioned mean that we would be getting an almost 40-50% increase in power?
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florida does not need carb certified, we are very lucky. if cali falls (let us hope not) will puerto rico become a state to complite the flag.
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I'm still waiting for my afsc on my birthday at the beginning of oct.. RP you promised
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Will that work???????
It should. Then again, leave it to Mazda to do something weird. The 4 port lower manifolds as far as I know are nothing more than the 6 port manifolds with 2 runners removed during the casting process. If this holds true, all you'd need to do is supply a small blockoff plate that bolts onto the upper manifold bolt holes. Greddy supplies this plate with their turbo kits to disable the auxiliary ports since their turbo has crap for airflow. Just come up with a different state of tune for each car.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
It should. Then again, leave it to Mazda to do something weird. The 4 port lower manifolds as far as I know are nothing more than the 6 port manifolds with 2 runners removed during the casting process. If this holds true, all you'd need to do is supply a small blockoff plate that bolts onto the upper manifold bolt holes. Greddy supplies this plate with their turbo kits to disable the auxiliary ports since their turbo has crap for airflow. Just come up with a different state of tune for each car.
Interesting... See all you AT owners, if this holds true, you'll actually be able get your blow jobs and go fast at the same time LOL
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That is such a dirty smiley... I like it!

Just had to post in here.

After I finish my comfort mods I'll be saving up for one of these too!

EDIT: Just subscribed to thread

EDIT 2: Whomever has the box of tissues... pass me one. (**** someone said Rx-8 owners where mature, guess I just "blew" that one out of the water.)

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i hope the blocking off works for this application. thank you RG
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I do too. It's just a hunch as it appears it should work but until someone actually tries it and verifies it, don't get too excited. It's just a possibility.
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Originally Posted by rotorocks
Frynge, I guess no world RX-8 4 port manifold domination for you now. LOL
Curses! I could have made it too if it weren't for those meddling gods! ;D

actually, I hope it works. a simple solution is always preferable. ^_^
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
I do too. It's just a hunch as it appears it should work but until someone actually tries it and verifies it, don't get too excited. It's just a possibility.
ok im only only at half mast now
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4 port guys here's the deal- buy the kit. then get the local hotrod shop to fab the blocking plate and try it. if it doesnt work they can find someone to do the manifold for you.
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Originally Posted by zoom44
4 port guys here's the deal- buy the kit. then get the local hotrod shop to fab the blocking plate and try it. if it doesnt work they can find someone to do the manifold for you.

Isn't that like..."buy the kit and hope it works, if not pay someone to make it work" ?

No thanks. Want my money? Sell me something that'll work out of the box. Otherwise there are other kits that will.

It'd be nice if it did work, another option is always good. But it's kind of stupid to ask me to shell out several thousand dollars for something that might work. Custom fabbing a manifold will cost a large % of initial kit cost, that would put the price way out of competition with the others. Not to mention you'd be tuning from scratch, or near enough.

I'll be here for a little while longer, with a wait and see what happens stance. Pettit is the front runner in my wallet, atm. I'd love to have the AFSC under the hood, but I'm not paying for a halfway job.

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Determining whether a blocking plate would work should be fairly easy. Just compare the 4port manifold with a 6port manifold (or RP's manifold). I don't know anyone with an 8 (6 or 4) near me, or I'd do it.
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Therm: Ease your jets "Turbo"! You're not paying for "a halfway job" because this kit is NOT intended for you Automatic guys....it's a full job for the Manual Transmission cars. I'm not knocking the A/T, it's just that plain and simple.

GL with the Petit if that's the route you take, it should be nice.
Old 09-28-2006, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
Therm: Ease your jets "Turbo"! You're not paying for "a halfway job" because this kit is NOT intended for you Automatic guys....it's a full job for the Manual Transmission cars. I'm not knocking the A/T, it's just that plain and simple.

GL with the Petit if that's the route you take, it should be nice.

I was responding to Zoom's suggestion. Hence the quote. His idea makes it "paying for a halfway job." I'm not knocking the AFSC or RP's efforts in any way. If RP goes to the effort to find out if it works on 4 ports, and it happens to, then great. If not, then no skin off my back, as last week I didn't expect it to be an option anyway.

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The flange shapes for the 4 port and the 6 port lower manifolds look identical. That's why I feel they should work.

I now have access to a privately owned foundry through a live steamers club I'm in here in Houston. I am going to slowly start learning how to cast many parts. Ultimately I would like to learn how to create molds for and create new intake manifolds for various projects. Don't get too excited. It's not something that I am putting any effort into right now but I do have the ability to if I want to use it. Someday I'll get around to it.
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Originally Posted by rotorocks
Interesting... See all you AT owners, if this holds true, you'll actually be able get your blow jobs and go fast at the same time LOL

Damn that was just wrong, funny as hell, but so wrong.

Axial Flow SC for Christmas for AT owners!!! Well, if somebody can come up with a soluton. If they can, I'm sure a number of AT owners will go Axial Flow.

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but the gearshift **** on my MT vibrates so nicely being mounted directly to the transmission and all.

Not sure about after I get the axial flow on, but with the K&N Filter and intake, it idles nice and rough.
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Which K&N do you have? The idle roughness can be fixed by installing at least one of the original 2 intake screens around the MAF.


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