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Old 12-27-2010, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
Your MAF is going to hate you

Pictured MAF setup was changed before dyno.
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The current setup is ****.
It just needs some TLC and it'll be a screamer.
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Yes, we got that MAF fixed a little while ago.
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And Dave, i'd love to post my dyno, but i'll wait for Elliot and Jeff to work thier magic first. I'll post the 'final' one when they are done.
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cool - looks very strong up top - hoilding boost all the way . Assuming Is the green line is PSI ?
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Torque?....
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That dyno chart is stock baseline versus turbo. The boost profile looks pretty darn good on their facebook. haha. ends up around 11 psi up top and actually peak boost is at 6500 with 11.6.

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Originally Posted by Brettus
cool - looks very strong up top - hoilding boost all the way . Assuming Is the green line is PSI ?
The top two lines are HP and TQ for Jemaal's car.
The bottom two lines are HP and TQ for a different, totally stock car (user name "DuBy") on the same dyno back in March.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The current setup is ****.
It just needs some TLC and it'll be a screamer.

Werd. Looks a little like this...
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^wow that works well?

looks like 3 inches of pipe before the maf and a reducer.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The top two lines are HP and TQ for Jemaal's car.
The bottom two lines are HP and TQ for a different, totally stock car (user name "DuBy") on the same dyno back in March.
Makes sense now - thanks .
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Originally Posted by NgoRX8
^wow that works well?

looks like 3 inches of pipe before the maf and a reducer.
Yeah, it is not ideal. But it will probably get the job done.
It was a real bear to get it to read correctly and it still has some stumbles that need to be corrected.
We'll get it straight. I can force just about anything to work.

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subscribbing, Setup Looks good
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Originally Posted by NgoRX8
That dyno chart is stock baseline versus turbo. The boost profile looks pretty darn good on their facebook. haha. ends up around 11 psi up top and actually peak boost is at 6500 with 11.6.
Thanks we designed the system around the turbo. We wanted to ensure that it matched the character of the engine and not peeter out up top. Before Elliot @ Turblown even started the build, the guys at A-spec Tuning helped me decide what turbo to use along with some compressor maps posted up on the forum and on Garret's website.

At some point ill put up the complete itemized list of what has been done to facillitate the turbo. I might not include prices cause it might hurt... lol
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Ahh there it is. It definitely looks strong up top. What is interesting is the boost increase right around the time most of us usually have the APVs open. Curious if the APV is still set to open around 6250 rpm.

This makes me really want an external wastegate. lol

Would definitely like to see your build list when its all done.
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The APV is kept closed as is the VDI.
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So what kind of flow are you getting at 10psi with the APV closed?
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The APV is kept closed .
ahhh . That explains why whp is a little low relative to boost
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Originally Posted by Brettus
ahhh . That explains why whp is a little low relative to boost
No, not really. Though that is a valid observation.
The fact that the throttle was partly closed has more to do with it.
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I suppose it was expecting too much for people to patiently wait and save the commentary until the full dyno results are posted ....
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
I suppose it was expecting too much for people to patiently wait and save the commentary until the full dyno results are posted ....
Yes . Honestly team , you forget where you are at times
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Jeff, I was wondering if you liked this setup more then the Speed Force Racing setup?
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
I suppose it was expecting too much for people to patiently wait and save the commentary until the full dyno results are posted ....
Like that has stopped anyone around here before?
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Originally Posted by FazdaRX_8
Jeff, I was wondering if you liked this setup more then the Speed Force Racing setup?
I don't feel it would be appropriate for me to comment on that here.
Perhaps you should start a thread comparing the two setups?
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
No, not really. Though that is a valid observation.
The fact that the throttle was partly closed has more to do with it.
Curious - if the APVs were closed . Why is there a dip at 6500 ?


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