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Well hopefully now that my mechanical issues are fixed I can sort the tune out when I get time. I am still seeing 10.0 at full tilt and I get spark blow out when that happens.
that is pretty rich. I know I dont have to tell you to watch out for oil dilution
If you are having blowout--you may want to try the colder denso (27's) leading plugs and set the gap at around 30-32. The surface gap plug almost require a cdi type ignition to work right. Just a thought?
Have you thought about by running the "shorter" reach plug in the leading positioning--you are actually retarding your timing a little too?

If you are having blowout--you may want to try the colder denso (27's) leading plugs and set the gap at around 30-32. The surface gap plug almost require a cdi type ignition to work right. Just a thought?
Have you thought about by running the "shorter" reach plug in the leading positioning--you are actually retarding your timing a little too?
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that is pretty rich. I know I dont have to tell you to watch out for oil dilution
If you are having blowout--you may want to try the colder denso (27's) leading plugs and set the gap at around 30-32. The surface gap plug almost require a cdi type ignition to work right. Just a thought?
Have you thought about by running the "shorter" reach plug in the leading positioning--you are actually retarding your timing a little too?

If you are having blowout--you may want to try the colder denso (27's) leading plugs and set the gap at around 30-32. The surface gap plug almost require a cdi type ignition to work right. Just a thought?
Have you thought about by running the "shorter" reach plug in the leading positioning--you are actually retarding your timing a little too?
IDK-----even with an a/f of 10 --with the right plug and ignition system--you wouldnt get any blowout.
Still--you are right--tuning would be the best.
When are you going to sell me your wheels?
Still--you are right--tuning would be the best.
When are you going to sell me your wheels?
What coils are you using Team if I may ask?
the D585 also has a higher output if the dwell is optimized
there are multiple types of LS2 coils, some use the D581 coil , some run the MSD equivalent, etc.
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there are multiple types of LS2 coils, some use the D581 coil , some run the MSD equivalent, etc.
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true that. Those coils have a lot of potential--but getting the dwell right is a challenge--at least for me. For others it is really not a problem. Sigh.
Point is though you shouldnt have blow out with a strong ignition system.
try some other type plug??.
Point is though you shouldnt have blow out with a strong ignition system.
try some other type plug??.
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Yep, BHR kit.
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you don't have the best coils to start with ...
That was my only concern when pushing them farther.
none, I am still on the original cheapo cosmetic blem coils I bought off eBay over two years ago
I've seen others fail on brand new kits using really low dwell, so I guess you just never know ...
I've seen others fail on brand new kits using really low dwell, so I guess you just never know ...
it's the table I have been using for quite a while with my GM truck coils
be advised that you should always go slow to start and check/tune AFR, timing, etc. as may be necessary following any dwell map changes ...
the map is not fully maxed out, just close with some margin
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be advised that you should always go slow to start and check/tune AFR, timing, etc. as may be necessary following any dwell map changes ...
the map is not fully maxed out, just close with some margin
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Okay guys, rather than start a new thread I figure I will post here.
My car has hard starts. It starts everytime but long cranking times whether stone cold or hot as F#!k.
So, despite it being the same hot or cold and being an experienced rotary owner I automatically assume it is low compression,
even though I have never gone lean and the engine only has 10k on it.
My good buddy comes over with his Mazda compression tester and laptop and we hook it up. We did two tests and then upload the data to his laptop which is running the Mazda compression software and the results are good, within spec. However, the cranking RPM was only 170RPM so the readings were at the bottom of the "within spec" scale. But either way it is good enough (for now).
The cranking speed did not change even with a booster on the battery or with another 100% charged battery hooked up with jumper cables.
So, my next test is at the starter itself. According to the FSM, the minimum voltage should be 11.0V and between 90-100A. Think it could be in the wiring harness?
My car has hard starts. It starts everytime but long cranking times whether stone cold or hot as F#!k.
- Battery is good and I also tested and tried another battery that is only a few months old. And both batteries are up rated over stock in terms of CA and CCA.
- I replaced my aging original starter with a new 2kw Denso unit
- BHR kit with year old or less wires and coils.
- New plugs (changed thinking they were fouled)
- Reverted my battery relocation back to front to rule that out but it had somewhat hard start before that anyway
- Voltage once the car is started is 14.0-14.3
- cleaned all grounds and checked voltage at each ground and found 14.0-14.3V
- Voltage while starting is 8.5-9.0V via Cobb
So, despite it being the same hot or cold and being an experienced rotary owner I automatically assume it is low compression,
even though I have never gone lean and the engine only has 10k on it.My good buddy comes over with his Mazda compression tester and laptop and we hook it up. We did two tests and then upload the data to his laptop which is running the Mazda compression software and the results are good, within spec. However, the cranking RPM was only 170RPM so the readings were at the bottom of the "within spec" scale. But either way it is good enough (for now).
The cranking speed did not change even with a booster on the battery or with another 100% charged battery hooked up with jumper cables.
So, my next test is at the starter itself. According to the FSM, the minimum voltage should be 11.0V and between 90-100A. Think it could be in the wiring harness?
Okay guys, rather than start a new thread I figure I will post here.
My car has hard starts. It starts everytime but long cranking times whether stone cold or hot as F#!k.
So, despite it being the same hot or cold and being an experienced rotary owner I automatically assume it is low compression,
even though I have never gone lean and the engine only has 10k on it.
My good buddy comes over with his Mazda compression tester and laptop and we hook it up. We did two tests and then upload the data to his laptop which is running the Mazda compression software and the results are good, within spec. However, the cranking RPM was only 170RPM so the readings were at the bottom of the "within spec" scale. But either way it is good enough (for now).
The cranking speed did not change even with a booster on the battery or with another 100% charged battery hooked up with jumper cables.
So, my next test is at the starter itself. According to the FSM, the minimum voltage should be 11.0V and between 90-100A. Think it could be in the wiring harness?
My car has hard starts. It starts everytime but long cranking times whether stone cold or hot as F#!k.
- Battery is good and I also tested and tried another battery that is only a few months old. And both batteries are up rated over stock in terms of CA and CCA.
- I replaced my aging original starter with a new 2kw Denso unit
- BHR kit with year old or less wires and coils.
- New plugs (changed thinking they were fouled)
- Reverted my battery relocation back to front to rule that out but it had somewhat hard start before that anyway
- Voltage once the car is started is 14.0-14.3
- cleaned all grounds and checked voltage at each ground and found 14.0-14.3V
- Voltage while starting is 8.5-9.0V via Cobb
So, despite it being the same hot or cold and being an experienced rotary owner I automatically assume it is low compression,
even though I have never gone lean and the engine only has 10k on it.My good buddy comes over with his Mazda compression tester and laptop and we hook it up. We did two tests and then upload the data to his laptop which is running the Mazda compression software and the results are good, within spec. However, the cranking RPM was only 170RPM so the readings were at the bottom of the "within spec" scale. But either way it is good enough (for now).
The cranking speed did not change even with a booster on the battery or with another 100% charged battery hooked up with jumper cables.
So, my next test is at the starter itself. According to the FSM, the minimum voltage should be 11.0V and between 90-100A. Think it could be in the wiring harness?
what about ur alternator?
just had a somewhat similar issue but found out my BHR MSD coils went bad... had to replace them... but sadly it is not direct interchangeable with stock coil wires...
had a talk with ex Mazda Jap Techy... they say alternator more than 3 years old should be replaced... they also realised that the alternator provided for the 8 was abit too small for the 8..


