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Old 11-23-2008, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by morkusyambo
Would 2.6 be the maximum duration in ms for the P1(red) injector. Also, should i setup 4 different injector tables(2 P1 and 2 P2), since the software doesn't seem to account for staged injectors??
Max duration for all injectors should be 16ms for the RX8; as far as I know. That is what I use.
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Should. Show me the CSV from EfiDude... I need to checks it out.
I've been logging all my files in DAT format as that is the easiest to use with the EFI Dude. I'll make a new file tonight in CSV. You can download the software for free from their website.

What would be a good run to do for the file?? I'm thinking WOT in 2nd and 3rd gear.
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See the help file about driving.

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On a side note - Brettus is gonna let me borrow an Int-X so I can be sure the software is 100% compatible. He is a great guy.

And I am working on getting a flash tuner after that; so as time goes by I'll have EMS specific help information come available.
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Kane, I have the EFI Dude file for you to look at. I tried to import it to Baseline, but I wasn't wearing my Geico hat, so no dice. What is your email address so I can send you this file??
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For the EFI Dude folks - without the fueling info we are kinda SOL...

For the AP folks; we are working on what appears to be a bug in the Racetuner software (in the way it logs fuel); standy by while we try to see if we can work around it.
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^In theory you could use STFT, LTFT, AFR, target AFR, and MAF readings without having real injector/fuel information to determine the same thing. The calculations would be assuming that any variance is coming from the MAF reading, and not the injectors or wide band (but that was the case anyway right?).

I haven't played with your software, so I don't know if that's even feasible to just plug in there without a lot of work.

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HAHA - I know; but when your a one man shop - doing the development this way is mo-fasterer...

The problem is that the software is designed to autoscale the MAF for you; since that seems to be the largest issue with tuning these MAF type cars. In order to do that I have to have ONE constant that I can trust; in my case after a lot of deliberation I chose fuel duration - as that is a pretty absolute number.

I can use STFT and LTFT; but first I would have to have the base map durations set up in a table in Baseline. It is doable - but not without a bit of work; and it seems to me the best way is to just know what the freakin durations are anyway - since that would provide for a more seamless integration with every other EMS out there in the world.
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Originally Posted by Kane
seamless integration with every other EMS out there in the world
You sir are a dreamer. I think what you'll end up with if that is your goal is an exposed API and a custom driver for every EMS solution out there.
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Originally Posted by rotary.enthusiast
You sir are a dreamer. I think what you'll end up with if that is your goal is an exposed API and a custom driver for every EMS solution out there.
They said the same thing when I told my last company we could build a 1-to-N product universe designed to allow a single ERP system to produce an infinite amount of UI front ends and product catalogs with an infinite amount of product variations...back in 2002.

www.fordcollection.com / http://www.nissanshiftgear.com - it's been done.

So; don't count me out just yet.

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Fair enough

From what I've seen the engine management systems out there vary so drastically from each other it's just plain silly though. I guess if you can get the data in a semi-unified format you're golden... I still think you're going to need EMS specific tweaks at some point though if you want to include everybody in the fun.
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Yeah there will be some EMS specific maps (Like Int-X and PFC) - but the point was really; to standardize the process more so than the output.

Regardless of the method - in the end all EMS's do the same thing; fuel, air and spark. Some just choose to do it in a weird way - but those signals still ahve to be sent ot the motor and as such we can work with them.
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Big updates to the Help Section of the website.

Keep reading and I hope to get everyone's concerns taken care of soon. I know I am slower than we all want; I have plenty of PM's and emails to keep me motivated. Thanks for all the feedback so far guys. Keep it up; it helps me to refine the software.

http://ppo2performance.com/docs/?page_id=15
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I need help anyone near north west florida???
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I will be in May...

Post your question(s) and let's see what we can do.
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well i have the target AFR map done injectors too to the best of my ability, i loaded the csv file but i can't optimize the fule of get a map made
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When you loaded the csv file; you mapped your columns over?

Can you view any individual fuel information from the "Fuel Map Creator" window? See pic
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well when i open that window it doesn't show any info i think I might be doing something wrong
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Yeah; if that window does not show any info; then the CSV file probably did not make it over right.

Are you using version 1.2 or version 1.1?
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1.2 i think but do i have to Massaging the Logfile fo it to work?
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Yes; you must massage after each logfile you load.
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cool that might be why, also the RPM Scale and Acceleration PSI is that diferent from setting the psi/rpm for the AFR map


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