Baseline Automated Tuning Beta Now Available for Download
Be sure to check out the site folks - I am going to start putting more indepth info there to save typing and editing time.
http://www.ppo2performance.com/
http://www.ppo2performance.com/
I am unsure what the AFR latency is for the stock O2 sensor; you can try to make a log and let off the throttle to find out.
Logging Interval - Do you have the AP? For the AP; it looks like the logging interval is 100ms - per CW's log.
Logging Interval - Do you have the AP? For the AP; it looks like the logging interval is 100ms - per CW's log.
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It should be - but my tester had an O2 sensor issue (or something).
If you set up the Manifold scale in load like the AP; all else being equal your fueling will work the same - the air calculations; Like Horsepower etc will be off - but the actual tuning part should work. - Key word SHOULD; haven't tested it yet - but you can play with it if ya want to.
I am waiting on a MAF/Load based EMS (like the AP) to actually verify this information - and make the appropriate changes to my software so all the stuff works.
If you set up the Manifold scale in load like the AP; all else being equal your fueling will work the same - the air calculations; Like Horsepower etc will be off - but the actual tuning part should work. - Key word SHOULD; haven't tested it yet - but you can play with it if ya want to.
I am waiting on a MAF/Load based EMS (like the AP) to actually verify this information - and make the appropriate changes to my software so all the stuff works.
Cool; let me know how it goes.
BTW; did you tell everyone about your tuning demo with Chris's FD, I heard you were a bit apprehensive....
BTW; did you tell everyone about your tuning demo with Chris's FD, I heard you were a bit apprehensive....
Last edited by Kane; Nov 23, 2008 at 03:30 PM.
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Stock injectors are P1-280/290cc (I forget off the top of my head; 99.999% sure they are 280) Secondaries-380cc and P2-380cc.
You need to do a manifold scale; so like the RPM scale youneed to specify the range you wanna be in.
-14.7
-12
-11
-10
-9
-8
....0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Like that. Unless you are tuning with the MAF (AP and Flash tools).
Then you want to use Calc Load
.1
.2
.3
.4
...
1
1.1
1.2
1.3
1.4
1.5
and so on.
For RPM's scale you do the same thing but with RPM.
500
1000
1500
2000
...
8500
9000
You can make the scales smaller (More numbers) if you want more detail.
You need to do a manifold scale; so like the RPM scale youneed to specify the range you wanna be in.
-14.7
-12
-11
-10
-9
-8
....0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Like that. Unless you are tuning with the MAF (AP and Flash tools).
Then you want to use Calc Load
.1
.2
.3
.4
...
1
1.1
1.2
1.3
1.4
1.5
and so on.
For RPM's scale you do the same thing but with RPM.
500
1000
1500
2000
...
8500
9000
You can make the scales smaller (More numbers) if you want more detail.
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Hey Kane. I don't have a laptop available so i'm planning on importing an EFI Dude csv log into Baseline. Then making a map with the ATR on my desktop with the resulting #'s. Think that'll work??
Ah ok - then do the Manifold scale in load.
As for the fuel info; as you can see the Mazda stockers have a range in them - so just set up up with 280-380-380 cc values.
As for fueling style it would be staged; the P1 are available all the time; the Secondaries are available after 4000 RPM and the P2's are (not 100% sure; I have mine seperated from the PCM completly).
Anyone know about the P2's?
As for the fuel info; as you can see the Mazda stockers have a range in them - so just set up up with 280-380-380 cc values.
As for fueling style it would be staged; the P1 are available all the time; the Secondaries are available after 4000 RPM and the P2's are (not 100% sure; I have mine seperated from the PCM completly).
Anyone know about the P2's?
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Would 2.6 be the maximum duration in ms for the P1(red) injector. Also, should i setup 4 different injector tables(2 P1 and 2 P2), since the software doesn't seem to account for staged injectors??
Do the max I guess; or the midpoint - and the image I showed is for 15 seconds; so times by 4 to get cc per min.
Baseline will learn what they actually are as you tune.
Baseline will learn what they actually are as you tune.