toca

im not surpised at these grain the guys at turboxs r some sharp basterds lol all there stuff is top nouch

PoLaK

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Does dynopak have a user based version of their software, such as how dynojet has runviewer for the user and winpep for the shops? that way i can take my files home with me if it should get published take screenshots etc...

6 runs sounds a bit excessive thats 18 runs in one day, but alright in 3rd gear with cool down time inbetween every set of 3 runs should be ok?

I have to aggree to TeamRx8 on this one, REVI isn't a variable it stayed the same for all testings doesn't make a difference. And Arrametta while it maybe true the it will only give you 2-3 peek HP you have to look at the whole curve mine gave me 8-10 around 6750. I also have REV8 but that won't make much of a difference on the dyno unless TurboXS have some sort $7000 electric fan that looks like it should be hanging on the wing of a Boeing 737 thats blasts 38,000 cubic feet per minute of air at 75 mph down a narrow duct in the 8's rad, then we dont' have to worry about this piece of RB "burning bush" technology interfering.

Japan8

No one's calling BS at all. Just feeling kinda like you did when you heard the results from Australia... Between both tests, it looks like what's there is there, but there is always the possibility of some unknown factor that is causing the large increase. The upcoming testing with Polak will make for good comparison (extra data points).

TeamRX8

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I haven't been keeping up with the RX-8 vs dyno issue, what's the latest work-around for the PCM not detecting all the wheels moving and killing the power?

EZZY

looking forward to seeing the review your your turboXs exhaust (havent heard of the news/WIP till now..)
there are still no details/pix of the said exhaust system on your website..... whats the difference between your system say compare to hi-tch and hymee systems?
have had used turboXs product before, and was happy with it... so it'd interesting...

wushunut

I guess we'll find out on Thursday. I remember there was a lot of chatter about cars with DSC affecting the dyno results on the 8. I've searched and searched on this board for dyno results on a base trim 8 (no DSC) to see if there was any variability. When I realized that Nathan and turboXS is local and they had a dyno, I inquired about dyno time. He is being kind enought to dyno my car for me ('04 base model) so I can find out for sure. Yup...I'm the bone stock car showing up on Thursday. It's a virgin .

Moostafa29

Too bad I'm on the other side of the country. I'd be really interested in the gain on a turbo'd car. If you could get those kind of gains on a n/a vehicle, I'd expect turbo to be even more. Any turbo'd 8s in that area??

MadDog

^ that would be cool. I'm a little nervous about slapping on a fat exhaust without a base fuel map to start with. I'd want to make sure I was running plenty rich the first time I started her up with the new pipes. I guess you could just take your current map and richen it everywhere by 10-15%.

Astral

I appreciate the up-front and honest dyno running. Sure, some variability, but at least you admit the reliability and show the range, instead of posting the lowest-dynoed stock hp vs the highest-dynoed exhaust-on hp.

Looking forward to next week's runs!

drifter_d

me. I've posted here already to volunteer my 8 over the winter, as my baby is garaged when there's snow. we'll see if they're interested.

dd sends...

PoLaK

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Its not an issue of having DSC or not, the whole "limp mode" proposition was suggested to occur when the ABS light turns on when 2 of the wheels are moving while the other 2 are still. Your car will throw a ABS light with or without DSC, most modern cars do evo's do and they dyno just fine.

I do not believe in the whole "limp mode" hub-bub and even if it does exist, which it doesn't, the way it would be doing it is by retarding timing and it would be retarding timing for when you get a baseline and when you put the new exhaust or whatever comparative part so its a constant so IT DOESN'T MATTER, mainly because it doesn't exist!

Good luck on your runs, if they can fit me on thursday i'll see you there.

wushunut

Yeah, I know that it doesn't matter. My main intent for the dyno run is not to see what the total hp number is. Rather, I wanted to have a baseline and then track the changes. The overall number doesn't mean much to me.

I don't know what to say about the whole limp mode thing. There's conflicting information everywhere. You say it doesn't exist (as to some others), and others say that it does (Story from Rotarynews.com). In any regards, whether or not it exists, as you pointed out, is not my concern.

I'm still curious though.

PoLaK

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o ok well in that case what parts are you installing that day while at turboXS or are you getting a baseline for parts at some other indeterminate time? If thats the case I would order a REVI or something else to get it b4 thursday. That way you can save some dyno time money, you can install the REVI in about 45mins with the car still attached to the "Power Absorption Units" and the results will be ture and more accurate and therefore satifiying, to at least me.

Moonrover333

so what is the full cost of this kit w/ cat delete? also any pics?

PoLaK

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He can't quite annouce that until he becomes an authorized advertiser, have you talked to anyone about this nathan, of course when the time is right?

Moonrover333

damn... i hope its not much more than 700 for both

RA-Eight

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Mmmmm....tuuurrboooo...

Can't wait to see these product offerings from turboxs fully developed. Now I'm really curious to see this beautiful Y joint on the exhaust.

Armaant - let us all in on what the fuss is all about! Pics please.

Ra

TurboXS_Mark

Here are some dyno plots from our exhaust testing. These show the middle runs with and without our exhaust components installed. Nathan will post more plots next week showing the high and low runs when he returns from LA.

Stock run vs. TXS Catback Exhaust:



Stock run vs. TXS Catback and Catless Race Pipe:



We only have this one crappy pic of the CBE to show you right now. We'll have better ones next week:




Thanks,
Mark
TurboXS

QBallz

^ That Y-joint is indeed pretty. Dyno gain's look good, now if only we can get a sound clip Grats on a so far awsome looking product.

RotaryN00b

Excuse me for being retarded... But are those dynos showing 201 whp?

Ajax

Certainly seems like it.

Outlaws eXtreme

Exhaust looks fine, would like to see a side pic if possible of the tips. Or even better, mounted on the car and a back picture of the car.

The Dyno though... hmmm....

Astral

Yes. According to TurboXS nathan, "199 and 205hp with most of the runs sitting right around 203whp".

PoLaK

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Remember guys this isn't a dynojet or a mustang dyno its a dynapack,
Measuring your horsepower depends on whose yardstick you use.

Mustang dyno's get the lowest numbers 140-160 Dynojets are more optimisitic 170-189 and since this is the first dynapack on the forum that i know of i really can't do a comparison, but it would seem to be even more optimisitic than dynojets. ITS JUST A NUMBER not anyway a real world value, tune tool not true statement of what your car puts to the ground

Nathan/Mark do you have a machine to meaure AFR as well?

Japan8

I'd say there isn't a "limp mode" but like you mentioned the ECU probably pulls timing as engine temps rise and also possibly depending on the gas you are running.