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10-01-2004, 07:19 PM
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that's all i had to do?!?! all this time i was skipping around the car sprinkling pixie dust singing chants. then i plugged in an old skool NES controller, turned on the car and pressed "up down up down left right left right B A B A Start"...and i still gotta damn CEL!!! now i'll go try this. haha, just kidding, i know all that's for the resets, but damn that's a lot. about to order pulleys, so glad u posted that, thanks!
10-01-2004, 11:48 PM
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Hey Mikez.. thankx a lot for the information. I'll try what you had recommended and let you guys know if it works.. I hope it does...
Zoom.. I went back and looked at my work order and it did have the code on there.. It was a P0300 which means that a random misfire was found...
According to this list of code descriptions....
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/rx-8-technical-info-cel-codes-pcm-pin-list-collision-guide-26291/
That kind of concerns me. I thought that the code would be related to some component on the car being removed.. or something similar in nature.. Hmmmmm
Maybe I should have them investigate it further. The mechanic just wrote on the work order that no misfire was found at that time and he cleared the code..
The moment that I drove it off the lot though it came back.. I think that there might be a bigger problem... Rrrrrrrrr
Zoom.. I went back and looked at my work order and it did have the code on there.. It was a P0300 which means that a random misfire was found...
According to this list of code descriptions....
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/rx-8-technical-info-cel-codes-pcm-pin-list-collision-guide-26291/
That kind of concerns me. I thought that the code would be related to some component on the car being removed.. or something similar in nature.. Hmmmmm
Maybe I should have them investigate it further. The mechanic just wrote on the work order that no misfire was found at that time and he cleared the code..
The moment that I drove it off the lot though it came back.. I think that there might be a bigger problem... Rrrrrrrrr
10-04-2004, 02:52 PM
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Fyi
My car turned 5,000 miles and went for a oil & oil filter change, and smog test.
I went with Royal Purple Synthetic 5w30 and K&N oil filter. After the change I ran the car for about 25 miles and brought it back to my mechanic to smog test it. With all the mods that I have done to the car, I wanted to know how clean or dirty does she run.
To both our surprises, she passed with flying colors and that made me very happy. Many thanks to SR Motorsports, Racing Beat, K&N and Magnecor for their fine products. And, many thanks to a lot of you for sharing your mods and problems/solutions on this message board. The car runs like silk in traffic, smooth at idle and WOT she pulls like a bat out of hell with no dips and no CEL.
One Happy Camper
Mike Z :D
I went with Royal Purple Synthetic 5w30 and K&N oil filter. After the change I ran the car for about 25 miles and brought it back to my mechanic to smog test it. With all the mods that I have done to the car, I wanted to know how clean or dirty does she run.
To both our surprises, she passed with flying colors and that made me very happy. Many thanks to SR Motorsports, Racing Beat, K&N and Magnecor for their fine products. And, many thanks to a lot of you for sharing your mods and problems/solutions on this message board. The car runs like silk in traffic, smooth at idle and WOT she pulls like a bat out of hell with no dips and no CEL.
One Happy Camper
Mike Z :D
10-04-2004, 11:08 PM
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Dave, what's the current Flash in your 8?? I believe your problem started when you installed the pulleys?? refresh my memory.
Rudy, I did a tremendous amount of research on synthetic oils and the RX-8 and found only one that will work the best and has the right blends is Royal Purple. I did try briefly Mobil 1 and that was a mistake. Royal Purple worked great from the start. I'm going to be using K&N oil filters and changing my oil every 5,000 miles.
Rudy, I did a tremendous amount of research on synthetic oils and the RX-8 and found only one that will work the best and has the right blends is Royal Purple. I did try briefly Mobil 1 and that was a mistake. Royal Purple worked great from the start. I'm going to be using K&N oil filters and changing my oil every 5,000 miles.
10-05-2004, 12:02 PM
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Yeah exactly. I have the M flash and this all started when I installed my pulley system and high flow cat... This is a response that I got from SR Motorsports about this subject when I asked them about the code. Basically they just repeated what was on the flyer.
David,
just turn the key on ( no disconnecting of the battery needed ) and
depress
the brake pedal 20 times within 8 seconds and then turn off key. Don't
start
the car , only turn key on .
That's it.
Thanks,
Greg
SR Motorsports
(925) 516-7382 Fax (925) 516-8901
www.SRmotorsports.com
I guess i'll keep on trying that but so far.. nothing.
David,
just turn the key on ( no disconnecting of the battery needed ) and
depress
the brake pedal 20 times within 8 seconds and then turn off key. Don't
start
the car , only turn key on .
That's it.
Thanks,
Greg
SR Motorsports
(925) 516-7382 Fax (925) 516-8901
www.SRmotorsports.com
I guess i'll keep on trying that but so far.. nothing.
10-05-2004, 01:42 PM
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Dave, thanks for answering the questions.
The pulleys are the problem not the high flow cat. The pulleys change the properties of the car's timing and the M flash, since it has no KAM capablity will not adjust to the new readings, just what the M flash programing is set too, that's why the dealer just uses their scan to reset you car and as you drive off, SOS.
The pulleys are very efficient and do benefit the cars performance and gas mileage but we have to deal with Mazda's original screw up, leading to all these flashs and they are still not done trying to get the car properly balanced. Currently the M flash only benefits the car in stock form and if it was running too rich from the start, any aftermarket mods, no matter how benefical will suffer from CELitz. That is why I haven't had mine flashed and my dealer has supported me on waiting till Maxda gets it right.
So, what do we do with you and others with similar mods and the M flash? I'm not sure!! Your car, like mine is advancing faster in timing from the stock setting of -5 BTDC because of the pulleys. Since Mazda plays with the timing through it's ECU there is a conflict when they control 100% of the settings. Disconnecting the battery on a M flash won't work, but the 20 foot stomp should of worked and does with the K & L flash.
Perhaps the solution is to get back to Greg(you can copy my information here to him) and see if he can come up with a solution since, they sell the pulleys and should responsibly deal with some of these problems. They have their won RX-8 to experiment on to come up with solutions and should be part of their marketing/sales strategy of their products.
Mike Z
The pulleys are the problem not the high flow cat. The pulleys change the properties of the car's timing and the M flash, since it has no KAM capablity will not adjust to the new readings, just what the M flash programing is set too, that's why the dealer just uses their scan to reset you car and as you drive off, SOS.
The pulleys are very efficient and do benefit the cars performance and gas mileage but we have to deal with Mazda's original screw up, leading to all these flashs and they are still not done trying to get the car properly balanced. Currently the M flash only benefits the car in stock form and if it was running too rich from the start, any aftermarket mods, no matter how benefical will suffer from CELitz. That is why I haven't had mine flashed and my dealer has supported me on waiting till Maxda gets it right.
So, what do we do with you and others with similar mods and the M flash? I'm not sure!! Your car, like mine is advancing faster in timing from the stock setting of -5 BTDC because of the pulleys. Since Mazda plays with the timing through it's ECU there is a conflict when they control 100% of the settings. Disconnecting the battery on a M flash won't work, but the 20 foot stomp should of worked and does with the K & L flash.
Perhaps the solution is to get back to Greg(you can copy my information here to him) and see if he can come up with a solution since, they sell the pulleys and should responsibly deal with some of these problems. They have their won RX-8 to experiment on to come up with solutions and should be part of their marketing/sales strategy of their products.
Mike Z
10-05-2004, 11:15 PM
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great, i want to use RP too and have always had in previouis cars...just was concerned about long term damage after reading a few threads about warnings.
let us know if any probs...thanks!
let us know if any probs...thanks!
Originally Posted by Mike Z
Dave, what's the current Flash in your 8?? I believe your problem started when you installed the pulleys?? refresh my memory.
Rudy, I did a tremendous amount of research on synthetic oils and the RX-8 and found only one that will work the best and has the right blends is Royal Purple. I did try briefly Mobil 1 and that was a mistake. Royal Purple worked great from the start. I'm going to be using K&N oil filters and changing my oil every 5,000 miles.
Rudy, I did a tremendous amount of research on synthetic oils and the RX-8 and found only one that will work the best and has the right blends is Royal Purple. I did try briefly Mobil 1 and that was a mistake. Royal Purple worked great from the start. I'm going to be using K&N oil filters and changing my oil every 5,000 miles.
10-05-2004, 11:19 PM
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ANY LUCK? I have M flash and pulleys ready to install
i have pulleys in hand ready to install but am concerned about CEL since you and I have same set up.
PM me or ill watch this thread.
thanks again, and good luck!
rudy
PM me or ill watch this thread.
thanks again, and good luck!
rudy
Originally Posted by davefzr
Yeah exactly. I have the M flash and this all started when I installed my pulley system and high flow cat... This is a response that I got from SR Motorsports about this subject when I asked them about the code. Basically they just repeated what was on the flyer.
David,
just turn the key on ( no disconnecting of the battery needed ) and
depress
the brake pedal 20 times within 8 seconds and then turn off key. Don't
start
the car , only turn key on .
That's it.
Thanks,
Greg
SR Motorsports
(925) 516-7382 Fax (925) 516-8901
www.SRmotorsports.com
I guess i'll keep on trying that but so far.. nothing.
David,
just turn the key on ( no disconnecting of the battery needed ) and
depress
the brake pedal 20 times within 8 seconds and then turn off key. Don't
start
the car , only turn key on .
That's it.
Thanks,
Greg
SR Motorsports
(925) 516-7382 Fax (925) 516-8901
www.SRmotorsports.com
I guess i'll keep on trying that but so far.. nothing.
10-05-2004, 11:56 PM
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Nope.. no luck as of yet. I have tried that process about 10 times now and it has had no effect on the CEL at all... It wouldnt bother me that much, because I know it doesnt effect performance, but with this constant CEL I have no idea when a true CEL has come on and I could be harming my engine..
Thats my main concern at this point.
I am going to try this procedure for a few more days, maybe even take it into mazda again and have them clear it, and see if that helps..
If it's not clear by Monday, I am going to call up SR and see what they think.
Thats my main concern at this point.
I am going to try this procedure for a few more days, maybe even take it into mazda again and have them clear it, and see if that helps..
If it's not clear by Monday, I am going to call up SR and see what they think.
10-07-2004, 08:23 PM
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sr pulleys in today...great great. i have heard it said on this site that there is no difference in performance, but i have to strongly disagree. pulls great beyond 45k or so and has a great turbine whine. however, i have the light problem and M flash. betwenn turning off traction dcs, cel, headlight indicator, and seatbelt sign, i have a regular video game.
10-11-2004, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rudy8
sr pulleys in today...great great. i have heard it said on this site that there is no difference in performance, but i have to strongly disagree. pulls great beyond 45k or so and has a great turbine whine. however, i have the light problem and M flash. betwenn turning off traction dcs, cel, headlight indicator, and seatbelt sign, i have a regular video game.
your car revs to 45K ? :D
10-11-2004, 09:28 AM
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Be careful and about changing this thread from High Flow CAT to Pulleys... 
Dave, I'm joining you on the high flow CAT. I just purchased the one with the resonator - trying to keep it below the wife unit radar
Since I am a video junkie myself, I'll upload some more vids for the server once I get it running.
Dave, I'm joining you on the high flow CAT. I just purchased the one with the resonator - trying to keep it below the wife unit radar
Since I am a video junkie myself, I'll upload some more vids for the server once I get it running.
10-11-2004, 11:37 AM
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Cool.. sounds good to me.. I dont know why people dont post more vids anyway.. There is so much media available now adays everyone should be doing it...
Glad to hear your going with the high flow cat.. Your going to love it.
Glad to hear your going with the high flow cat.. Your going to love it.
10-11-2004, 01:09 PM
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hey dave, does the hi flo cat get rid of that popping noise from he exhaust? Or does is amplifies it? Also I've read that theres not much difference in noise level is that so with your unit?
10-11-2004, 11:18 PM
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Hey Zoomer... To answer your question.. If you had popping before.. you will have popping after... I have had it from the start really but I only notice it when I am pushing it hard.. lets say shifting into second gear at or above 8,000 rpm... Sometimes I hear it going from 2nd to 3rd earlier in the rpm range though...
The sound is great. I really thought that after I installed this unit I would have to invest in some dynamat to help with the noise.. (man is that some expensive stuff).. but I really dont need it. The only people that I have read that have it are the ones that bought the CZ MP1 combination kit from Canzoomer... In fact.. it's less quiet then it was when I was missing the left muffler tip on my exhaust.. That was really loud!
I would suggest to anyone to get this..
One of the best benefits that I have gotten from this high flow cat though is the fact that I used to have a VERYYYYYYYYYY annoying performance lag shifting from 3rd to 4th high in the rpm range. You may have read about this before or experienced this for yourself.. It's very annoying. It's almost like you have reached the fuel cut off after you shift into 4th, and then the car picks up after that... That is completely gone now.. I love that fact about this upgrade.. it definitely cured that... but I cant say for sure that it will cure your car, I just know that it really helped on mine to the point where I cant notice it anymore...
The sound is great. I really thought that after I installed this unit I would have to invest in some dynamat to help with the noise.. (man is that some expensive stuff).. but I really dont need it. The only people that I have read that have it are the ones that bought the CZ MP1 combination kit from Canzoomer... In fact.. it's less quiet then it was when I was missing the left muffler tip on my exhaust.. That was really loud!
I would suggest to anyone to get this..
One of the best benefits that I have gotten from this high flow cat though is the fact that I used to have a VERYYYYYYYYYY annoying performance lag shifting from 3rd to 4th high in the rpm range. You may have read about this before or experienced this for yourself.. It's very annoying. It's almost like you have reached the fuel cut off after you shift into 4th, and then the car picks up after that... That is completely gone now.. I love that fact about this upgrade.. it definitely cured that... but I cant say for sure that it will cure your car, I just know that it really helped on mine to the point where I cant notice it anymore...
10-12-2004, 01:09 AM
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i never have that issue with 3rd to 4th, but when the car's at idle I can here the car misfire a bit causing it to pop. However this was less noticeable with the racing beat exhaust (when I heard it) But either way did your exhaust get deeper along with cat or did it stay the same?
10-12-2004, 02:17 AM
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Thats a misfire? I thought that it was just unburnt fuel that ignites inside of your exhaust system instead of within the engine itself.... Or is that considered a misfire?? dunno..
anyway.. I have the borla exhaust right now and after installing the high flow cat it just got raspier.. Not really deeper.. just slightly louder and narlier.. it's tough to describe it.. There are some videos a few posts back.... Maybe i'll make a longer one sometime
anyway.. I have the borla exhaust right now and after installing the high flow cat it just got raspier.. Not really deeper.. just slightly louder and narlier.. it's tough to describe it.. There are some videos a few posts back.... Maybe i'll make a longer one sometime
10-12-2004, 04:23 AM
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just heard the clips pretty hard to tell the difference since you do have one of the louder exhaust systems available. How would you think this would sound with a quieter exhaust like the mazdaspeed?
10-14-2004, 11:11 PM
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Hey, I know this doesnt have to deal with the exhaust but, i was wondering if any of you guys have installed the SR motor sport intake on your cars? if so can anyone give me some feed back on it. I am thinking about buying it?
10-14-2004, 11:35 PM
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Hey, I know this doesnt have to deal with the exhaust but, i was wondering if any of you guys have installed the SR motor sport intake on your cars? if so can anyone give me some feed back on it. I am thinking about buying it?