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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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there are lots of listings for 1992 Mazda RX-7TT's too

Mazda is very good about repeating itself; release model years early, fibbing about engine output ratings, etc.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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omg..... does that mean my car doesnt exist?
No, it just means you don't listen :P
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Whatever happened to the Cobb tuning? Did they ever report any results? It seems like the RB tune is going to be rather conservative, which is what I would expect from them. But it would be nice to have a more aggressive alternative for those with no concern about their Cat.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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i think in certain areas they do have 03 rx8, I believe in japan they have 03' rx8s.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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the RX8 came out in 2003, roughly half way through the year. In the US for marketing reasons i guess, they call an 03 an 04

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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Anyone know price or gains?
yes. Jim Langer. probably Jim Mederer. Damon too i would think.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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thre is some difference between 2005 and 2004(2003 in somparts of the world) MY pcms. It is either hardware or firmware related. i dont think we ever pinned it down. we talked about it in december 04.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Skiptomylue
sigh.. everything always has to be in the states.. doesnt it.. why cant we have anyone worth intellegents working on things for the 8 up in canada... im even to affraid to buy the Inter-x becuase of the simple reason of no tuners up here who are rotary experts.. well.. if there are then they dont make them selves publicly known...looks like im stuck staying stock..
Everything doesn't have to be in the states. Japan has been flashing the ecu for a while. And Canada was the first out with a piggyback ecu for the RX8. Haven't you heard of the Canzoomer? Also, there is no US spec or Canadian spec cars. It is North American spec. You can expect anything RB comes out with to work for your car. As for Europe?
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 07:08 AM
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this is great news!!!!

but remember that RB is always on the conservative side when it come to power gains, but what they say is what you get and the best quality.

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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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well... def sounds promising...
keep us all informed!
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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Everything doesn't have to be in the states. Japan has been flashing the ecu for a while. And Canada was the first out with a piggyback ecu for the RX8. Haven't you heard of the Canzoomer? Also, there is no US spec or Canadian spec cars. It is North American spec. You can expect anything RB comes out with to work for your car. As for Europe?
no nono, i ment for the fact that yeah great, it will work for my car.. but how will i get it for my car, if they are in the states? im nto gonna drive8 hours or 16 or however far it is to get a Flash that could up my hp to just 200 whp, i havnt yet dynoed my car, myabe my car is making 190whp? i dont know, i just wish we had some true experts that are like an hour away driving, like everyone seems to down there, seems everyone can get there car tuned by scott, as for me, well.. looks like i gotta learn to tune my own car
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Skiptomylue
how will i get it for my car, if they are in the states? im nto gonna drive8 hours or 16 or however far it is to get a Flash ....
normally you would overnight your cars ECU to them and then they overnight it back. That is how it worked with my 300ZX ecu upgrade.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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I just got of the phone with them. They told me around a 7 HP gain with stock intake and exhaust. With an open intake and exhaust it is around an additional 10 to 12HP. Racing Beat is a great company and I believe you will get similiar results. Pricing should be less than $300 or so if you include your shipping. I will be getting mine done.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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10-12 whp sounds good for 300 bucks...
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by XDEEDUBBX
10-12 whp sounds good for 300 bucks...
I think it may be crank hp.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaguar_MBA
normally you would overnight your cars ECU to them and then they overnight it back. That is how it worked with my 300ZX ecu upgrade.
So id be without my car for 3 days?? when this flash comes out they are gonna be so busy... ill send it overnight.. but when they get it.. will they be able to work on it and send it back the next day??
12 hp with an openbox intake.. thats not including the exhuast either is it? i think we may be seeing some better hp gains with breather mods, intake, exhaust, headers, could see a 15-20hp gain with those 3 and the new flash
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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300 ? Thats it ? Im gonna go for it !

but wait, theres a new flash coming out (a recall) the S flash. Do I need to reflash it again everytime Mazda updates ? (and pay everytime !?)
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Moostafa29
I think it may be crank hp.
5-6 whp sounds good to me!
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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300 ? Thats it ? Im gonna go for it !

but wait, theres a new flash coming out (a recall) the S flash. Do I need to reflash it again everytime Mazda updates ? (and pay everytime !?)
not sure... but, i think that reflashing at mazda will overwrite the rb code...
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dgrx8
not sure... but, i think that reflashing at mazda will overwrite the rb code...
yes, any ecu reflashes afterwards will overwrite the rb flash.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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does anyone else see a potential issue here?
what happens if you pay your 300 bucks or whatever, enjoy your newly flashed ecu for a while then a new Mazda flash comes along? This means you're 300 bucks is wasted or? will they reflash it for free if you have dealer work done?, will it be compatible with the newer flash you just had done?, or is their flash something completely different than what Mazda would do so instead just drive around with their setup forever or? Seems like I'm missing something, can someone enlighten me on this? thanks a bunches in advance
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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It doesn't have to be compatible with any new Mazda flashes. It is a flash. It can't be compatible. You can only have one or the other.

It is true that if Mazda reflashes your car you will lose this one. Sned it back for them to redo it. It is a pain in the *** but if you are smart you won't ever take your car to a delership for any work anyways. Not even for an oil change. Only take it to a dealership if you have a serious issue that needs warranty work. This will minimize any potential reflash issues and you'll probably have less headache from not dealing with them anyways.

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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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you can also pull a fuse to make sure the car can't be reflashed. I can't remember which one but Maniac (Jeff) does.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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I wonder if this map is safe to use on cars running with nitrous ???
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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Email from Jim Langer

Just to confirm what 'hogcar' said. I inquired via email & below is the response from Jim.
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Guys,

Since I have received several email messages regarding the ECU reflash for the RX-8 let me try an answer your questions with this summarization.

Yes, we have finally developed a flash for the RX-8 that offers a modest performance increase. Once we are ready to release this flash, we will make available dyno charts and performance specifications. Before releasing this reflash we had several people that we have an on-going testing relationship send us their ECU's. (By chance, all of these cars were 2004 RX-8s.) All reports regarding the reflash were positive as expected, with no problems or complaints.

Shortly thereafter we attempted to reflash a 2005 RX-8, but the ECU would not accept the flash. We have since obtained both an 2005 and 2006 ECU and we are continuing to research these units. We have also been made aware of another possible Mazda flash version for the 2004 that might be forthcoming. We would prefer to update the latest flash to avoid having our customers deal with a possible "overwrite" by the dealer during a visit to the dealership.

We do not have any current plans for an ECU flash for any specific aftermarket turbo or supercharger kits. The price for the reflash has a target price of around $295, with a 1-2 turnaround required for this service. (Same day service for local customers will be addressed at our next staff meeting.)

Best regards,

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