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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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you work for a company that makes a product to over write the firmware on pcms with a pc in the field but they dont support rx-8s and you are bitching about the price another company has put on their product? why dont you get your company to work on RX-8s?
No.

I work for a company that sells a product that goes in airplanes. The firmware in this product can be updated by the user in the field with a laptop. The customer knows this is the expected way to update it when they buy it.

Sometimes a customer doesn't want to do it themselves, they want to mail it to us. We'll take care of them. This is even more extreme than RB- the customer can update but doesn't want to, and we don't charge at all. In RB's case, you have to use them to update, and they charge you.

It's totally up to RB on how they want to price their product, and each customer needs to decide if the pricing makes sense to them. As someone that does a lot of marketing and pricing work, this pricing structure doesn't make sense to me, but I do hope RB is successful with it.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
i am a bit confused...

you are comparing the 205 whp i my car did with the 225 flywheel hp. that rb did??? i would say that was pretty damn =

btw, mine did 195 hp rwh. with just a midpipe and intake... that tends to be on the high side..

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Beat ya! 197 w/ Intake and Catback.



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So - are we saying the dyno RB posted was a FLYWHEEL HP graph? Perhaps I missed that - because I was going to comment on how unusually STRONG their test car happened to be.

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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dmp
Beat ya! 197 w/ Intake and Catback.



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So - are we saying the dyno RB posted was a FLYWHEEL HP graph? Perhaps I missed that - because I was going to comment on how unusually STRONG their test car happened to be.

the info i have seen is rb does not have a wheel dyno.

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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dsmdriver
No.

I work for a company that sells a product that goes in airplanes.
ok thanks for the clarification sorry if i was over the top
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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racing beat does not have a chassis dyno.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Make sure your car has the latest flash from Mazda before you send it over to Racing Beat.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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I had my car at the local Mazda dealership last week and wanted to get the latest flash - According to Scott - should be compatable with the Interceptor. Mazda did not want to flash the ECU because of the Interceptor - They said it may short out - So I figured after they said that I did not want to take a chance.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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The power the flash offers is nice, but some of the other features like triggering the fans sooner and such are worthwhile on their own. Maybe I'll do this during the winter.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by brillo
sorry i missed that, Swoope has had some engine trouble, so its possible it could be related to that.

I'll ask him later when I talk to him.
nope,
the problem i have only happens as certian times and did not happen on the dyno..

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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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zoom,
check pm.

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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by lethologica
Make sure your car has the latest flash from Mazda before you send it over to Racing Beat.
This makes no difference. RB is replacing all of the code in the ECU, so you end up with whatever flash level they have. You could have the very original flash in your ECU and when you're done RB will have put their version on it.

I'm hoping that they have the latest flash (is that "S"?) so that if you took it to a dealer a week later they'd have no reason to try and update it because it would be the latest.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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yes exactly dsm
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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So? Does RB even HAVE a Chassis dyno???
















just kidding, Charlie.

Has anyone called/emailed RB to ask them if their tune retains the oil-meters specs found in the new Flash?
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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it will since their flash is made by making their changes to the newest flash level. im sure i said that previously too
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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Zoom thanks for that clarification.
Yes we do have a member with the usual bolt ons---no ecu tuning--no piggy back-- that has consistantly dyno-ed 204(at the rear wheels). Most have dynoed mid 180's to close to 200.
If that is a true gain from the cars baseline---we have a winner! Dont forget the other features also.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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yeah you mean charlie's car right?
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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correct.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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we have decided he is a mutant----a good mutant but a mutant none the less
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
it will since their flash is made by making their changes to the newest flash level. im sure i said that previously too

That doesn't mean they've used Mazda's suggested Oil Metering Specs.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
That doesn't mean they've used Mazda's suggested Oil Metering Specs.
we hope!

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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dsmdriver
This makes no difference. RB is replacing all of the code in the ECU, so you end up with whatever flash level they have. You could have the very original flash in your ECU and when you're done RB will have put their version on it.

I'm hoping that they have the latest flash (is that "S"?) so that if you took it to a dealer a week later they'd have no reason to try and update it because it would be the latest.
I gave Racing Beat a call. They suggest that you have the latest flash before you send it to them.
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by lethologica
I gave Racing Beat a call. They suggest that you have the latest flash before you send it to them.
That would lead me to believe that they just alter your current flash on your ECU, but that would seem too time consuming. I would think they would have the latest flash and update it with their code and then just flash everyone with that one file, but could be wrong.
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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If I remember what I read correctly, they just go in and change the fuel tables and a couple of other things. They don't completely reflash the ecu.
I got a free oil change coupon from the dealer and had them change the oil last week. They didn't reflash with the latest update.
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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as I recall RE Amemiya its reflashing the ecu this way they change a couple of things but not the entire program
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Brice-RX8
I would think they would have the latest flash and update it with their code and then just flash everyone with that one file, but could be wrong.
and for the sevententh time in this thread- yes that is correct.
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