Jedi54

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I have corporate attorneys at my beck and call. Whats your point?

TexasKyle

I just read the Magnusson-Moss Act on the FTC's website and didnt see where it even covered how or to what end a manufacturer can void a warranty. Maybe it wasn't the entire text (although it was long). Can you provide a link for this Act? I would like to read up on this some more.


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orbist

I had similar crap from my UK dealer but wrt the CANScan - my second cat failure and they tried to claim the CANscan (which they found in the glovebox) was messing with the electrics and causing the problem...

I took my laptop down and showed the head mechanic what it does and he was happy it was just a data logger and couldn't possibly have cause the cat failure.

I'm now in despute with them as to why I've had 2 cats fail in 18 months, 27K miles... I do manily short journeys and we have some EURO4 crap that heats the cat up to optimal temp within 1 minute - I think my short journeys and this extra fuel burn is causing the degradation of the honeycomb. So far, dealer isn't interested, Mazda UK helpline won't let me talk to the technical department, so I'm currently writing a letter and copying Mazda JP. So far the two cat failures are being treated as 'isolated indicents' ... when I left the dealership I said, well see you in 9 months when this one goes, surely then it won't be an isolated incident.

Mazda did finally authorize the new cat under warranty... oh and to claim EURO4 compliance a cat must last 60K miles minimum, so are they going to warranty each one for that long?!!!

Its for this reason that I'm holiding off getting a REVi, would love one, but I'm not sure if in the UK we have the same law re proving it caused the failure.

RedRexNJ

Not everyone is a big balla like you, playa. Some folks don't have the means and the corporate sharks to go to bat for them. That's my point.

LoveMy8

I don't know if this helps anybody. This is mainly for people in NJ. Flemington Mazda in Flemington is really cool with whatever you do to your car, except for the extreme, (turbo, SC, etc.). I have rims, tints, Greddy exhaust and the REVi intake and all they do is compliment me on it. Never any threats of voiding my warranty or anything like that. I'm just letting people in NJ know that Flemington Mazda is excellent and I completely trust them with any work done! If anyone is going to go there ask for Mike Kearney! He is the best!

Davey's RX-8

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Old thread being revived because Mazda is not covering my cat, O2 and burnt wiring claiming my Revi and Denso plugs were improper. I've read the thread and am familiar with the issue of the Magnusson-Moss Act and think Mazda is BSing me. Everyone agree?

HiTMaNN

What do they have to prove it? Have you called MNAO? What have you done?

What year is your car?

What is the mileage?

dannobre

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If they think the intake caused a problem with your CAT...especially when they are failing in numerous unmodified cars...get them to prove it......Same with the O2 sensor and the wiring...both likely failed due to the increased temps after the CAT failed...............

Don't let them push you around...especially if they are Racing Beat parts...they should know better in California...It's not Like Mazda Corporate doesn't know who Racing Beat is...

laythor

The dealer will do everything they can to find a way not to pay, they are a business afterall.

Print out a request for proof on some fake legal stationary.

Davey's RX-8

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it's an '04 with 46k on it. They are claiming that the Revi and the Denso plugs are responsible.....I called MNOA and they are siding with the district manager in that unauthorized parts are responsible. Short of hiring an attorney or getting a consumer advocate I don't know that they are going to back down.

Davey's RX-8

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To cover my ***, I've filed a insurance claim based on fire damage (caused by the failed cat). Not my first choice, but Mazda seems to want to play hardball here.

Davey's RX-8

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It's preliminary but it LOOKS like my insurance company will cover the cost of anything damaged by fire/burning less my deductible.

Razz1

You have fire damage or a burnt CAT?

Hell, just buy a RP super cat.

Highway8

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A couple small notes on the RB revi intake. I got pulled over one day by Highway Patrol officer and he looked under my hood and told me that I did not need a C.A.R.P. sticker because the revi had everything and functioned the same way the stock intake did. Basicly because no vacuum lines, or wiring is removed and it is a fulley inclosed box, it did not need to be CARB certified. He said he took a class and knew what he was talking about. Not sure if he is right or not.

As far as taking mazda to court because they wont pay for a cat, I would be suprised if they even showed up. The cost of a lawyer and an expert to go to court is more then a catalytic converter. I do not know the process to take them to court but I would guess they would back down and just replace the cat if they were served. Again, they have to prove the aftemarket part caused the failure, not just that it could or might have caused it.

Tamas

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Yep - take the case to the small claims court if they don't budge.

Davey's RX-8

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The cost of the related repairs is $3,500 which is the cat, O2 sensors, burnt carpeting, and wiring harness. I've filed a fire claim with Geico, and if I'm limited to my $500 deductible in out of pocket I'll deal with it. On the other hand this might be a good opportunity to replace the clutch/flywheel while they're reaplcing my engine. Yeah go figure, they'll cover the engine but not the cat.

Highway8

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Does your insurance company know the whole situation? I wonder if they would try to go after mazda for the cost?

bose

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ive dealt with this crap myself and I hope you have better luck than I did. they have voided my warranty cause aem intake, greddy exhaust. To make a long story short they said I had low compression needed new engine. This would be the third, I spent a month fighting this did alot of calling, reading, researching everyone/thing I could. Aside from taking them to court I did everything I was told to do and think to do. After getting jerked around for a month I said fu*k it. I really would have liked to have hauled them into court but I don't have the funds or the ability to take time off work. I wasted alot of time and got really pissed off, after seeing the kind of rebuilt engines the put in I don't know why I'd want to fight them to give me a piece of crap rebuild again.

So when my renny bites the dust I'm calling Mazmart.

Razz1

Hell you didn't tell us the whole story.

Your engine went out.

Davey's RX-8

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And your point is? The whole thing is interrelated. It all went out at the same time....