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Old 10-22-2003, 03:07 PM
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Whats important is NOT the ET but the MPH. ET is mostly Launch and shift tech. dependent (along w/ torque/hp), the MPH is horsepower to the ground.
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Originally posted by Judge Ito
Ill be testing today on pump gas 93 octane for two rounds then Ill bump the octane a bit.
Well, how did it go?
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Yesterday the weather conditions were really good for a better E.T. But I could not get the car working correctly with the launch. I got too much traction and the rear almost fell of the car. Once I launched I had to aboard the run. The second run I played with the tire pressure a bit, The Rx8 launched a bit better but still to aggresive on the rear and I just decided I did not want that type of reaction out the launch and call it a day. All I could say the car was pulling very crisp in between shifts and rpms a bit better then last time. To bad I could not make the best of yesterday because the car is making more power with the cold weather and less humidity that we are having here in the northeast.
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
Good job, was this on race gas, and how they hell did you manage a 1.9 60ft., that's a great launch. You were on street tires correct (guessing bone-stock would include that), and what RPMs were you dropping the clutch at?
I'm just jumping in on the first page, but IKE, I'm surprised you don't know about lowering street tire pressures, especially in the WRX! How else could I do a 1.81 0 on stock RE92's, LOL.


Don't go too low or bad things will happen! And make your non-driven wheels have less resistance. Increase the pressure to the max rating on the side wall.
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Old 10-23-2003, 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by syntrix
I'm just jumping in on the first page, but IKE, I'm surprised you don't know about lowering street tire pressures, especially in the WRX! How else could I do a 1.81 0 on stock RE92's, LOL.


Don't go too low or bad things will happen! And make your non-driven wheels have less resistance. Increase the pressure to the max rating on the side wall.
You should know that tire pressure depends on how much you're modded and what tires you run, and with a slightly modded WRX it's better to raise tire pressure than it is to lower it. I got rid of the RE92s before I even picked my car up from the dealer and with my tires and most WRXs higher tire pressure is better/safer.
I know very well about tire prssures for various types of drivetrains, what led you to believe I didn't?
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Actually, lowering to the same levels at 225hp produced the bese results at 340hp in the wrx.

Might want to experiment with that ito. Ask around the track, don't rely on internet messageboard advice
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Old 10-24-2003, 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by syntrix
Actually, lowering to the same levels at 225hp produced the bese results at 340hp in the wrx.

Might want to experiment with that ito. Ask around the track, don't rely on internet messageboard advice

Was that meant to be adressed to Ito? Anyhow a tiny bit of wheelspin is a good thing, I'm not basing this only on message boards. 40-45 lbs. and 1.8 60' are still rather easy to come by on a stock rex, and it's a little less wear and tear on the tranny and slipping the clutch a bit is not as neccessary.
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Old 10-28-2003, 05:04 PM
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judging by ito's 60 ft times, he is a very experienced drag racer. i am kinda disappointed in thinking that my car will never run close to that fast, because i cannot really afford to do 8k clutch drops or redline power shifts.

however, on a brightner note, if judge ito claims he can hit 14.3 with a bone stock rx-8, whats to stop him from dipping into the 13's with canzoomers ecu mod and a full exhaust system? maybe with drag radials he can put down some 1/4 mile numbers that all rx-8 owners can be damn proud of. go ito!
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Hey Judge

Can you either post here or PM me the tire pressure details (PSI, did you stagger the pressure, etc.), rpm at launch, clutch issues (did you dump at 7k, feather it a little/lot, etc.), rpm shift points, yada yada yada...

I'm taking mine to the World Cup race on 11/9 at Maryland International Raceway. I'll probably only get 2 or 3 practice runs before eliminations, so having the expertise of your trail and error would be great.

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Old 10-30-2003, 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by syntrix
Actually, lowering to the same levels at 225hp produced the bese results at 340hp in the wrx.

Might want to experiment with that ito. Ask around the track, don't rely on internet messageboard advice
I don't rely on any message board advice. I rely on my many years of drag racing experience. The Rx8 with complete exhaust including a well built header a nice cold air intake system and increasing fuel a little bit more. with some drag radials the Rx8 will run 13.0 to 12.9 with a bone stock engine.
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You like to speculate don't you Ito. Where are those slips and the mid 14 second runs on regular gas, I won't hold you to the 14.3 :p
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
You like to speculate don't you Ito. Where are those slips and the mid 14 second runs on regular gas, I won't hold you to the 14.3 :p
Agreed
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face it IKE, a few simple mods and an RX8 will smoke your subaru while looking better, handling better, and lasting longer.

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You have no idea of how easy it is to get a WRX to run 13 second flat quarter mile times, do you?

Looking better? Personal taste. Someone somewhere likes the Aztek.
Handling better? Yeah, that one is true.
Lasting Longer? Viagra is not for cars.
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
You like to speculate don't you Ito. Where are those slips and the mid 14 second runs on regular gas, I won't hold you to the 14.3 :p
Me speculate? Not really, what you are reading is 16 years of rotary engine experience and hands on experience on your everyday Rx7. From the 1970 Rx's to your most common first generation,second gen. and third gen. Rx7's I not only Drag Race rotaries but I work on them every single day. I own a rotary performace shop in NJ and I could tell you that I have seen second gen. Rx7's with a dyno pull of 95rwhp bone stock and with some exhaust, intake, bigger secondary injectors and some more tweaks pulll a 162rwhp with a bone stock engine.
The Rx8 bone stock is pulling almost 200rwhp I know that after I upgrade the exhaust ECU cold air intake bigger 5&6 injectors Ill pull enough power to run that 13.0 to 12.9 with some drag radials on 16 inch wheels, with a bone stock engine.
On the 14.5 time slips Vosko has them in hand I'll have him post them.
One guy told me that I would not be able to pull no more then a 2.0 60 foot times . All I said was Ill proove you wrong and I did with my 1.9 60 foot times.
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I personally appreciate and enjoy Judge Ito's insight, history and knowledge he is kind enough to post on this forum. I do not require run slips to trust his judgement and experience in his chosen area of expertise.

I never plan on running my RX-8 on a quarter mile track, but those who choose to, and prove the expansion and versatility of the RX-8 are only making my ownership of the RX-8 a greater experience.

This is a new car, its aftermarket parts availabilty will be slower due to being new and being a redesigned rotary as far as bolt on equipment goes. I also like to hear how he intends to eventually make all this come about. I trust his experience to be top notch. Unlike others whom we seem to be getting way to much opinion from, just based on one test drive with a salesman in the car, or two short test drives, I forget how the story goes.

MY point is, I trust and enjoy Judge Ito's input, damn the time slips. I want to hear more of what he has to say, but I feel his posts are limited due to constant harassment and snide remarks made on every posts.

Maybe an ongoing read only "Judge Ito's RX-8 1/4 mile racing experience" thread should be started by the forum.
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Originally posted by Judge Ito
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One guy told me that I would not be able to pull no more then a 2.0 60 foot times . All I said was Ill proove you wrong and I did with my 1.9 60 foot times.
I believe sub 2.0 with a good setup... why is that hard to believe?

Either way, this is the internet here, and slips going up would be greatly appreciated.

I'm not doubting your experience, that will probably help us all in the long run!

Keep up the good work, and scan those slips in to make people choke on their tongues!
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Originally posted by syntrix
I believe sub 2.0 with a good setup... why is that hard to believe?

Either way, this is the internet here, and slips going up would be greatly appreciated.

I'm not doubting your experience, that will probably help us all in the long run!

Keep up the good work, and scan those slips in to make people choke on their tongues!

I feel the same way, I really don't doubt the runs but slips would be nice, that's pretty standard stuff for 1/4 mile forums. I hope you don't think I'm harassing you Ito as someone seems to think I am, just holding you to the same standard I would anyone else on any other car board. Someone runs 13s in a stock WRX I want to see slips, whether it's John Force or Joe Schmoe.

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Old 10-31-2003, 10:41 PM
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I highly doubt stock 13's, that's propaganda at it's best

either way, we are all enthusiasts here, and would love to see some ttime slips.


I think this is the first time that IKE and I agreed on something
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Thats right Ike, this is the way you begin. Badger till he posts slips, then say it was a freak car, then you doubt that anyone could do it consistently, and keep trashing the thread. If you don't believe it, leave the thread.

Remember the statements about RX-8 not being able to compete in the BS class with the mighty S2000, then autocross results showed that it beat S2000's, and then you said it wouldn't happen consistently. All of your opinions are posted without proof, yet you spout them as fact, and people for some reason believe your unsubstantiated BS.

Go back to your other forums where slips are the norm, this forum doesn't have to fit your model. I think the content and format is just fine. Maybe theres a little classier group of people here that can just talk without constant proof. Its unfortunate that you have spent your whole life associating with people you don't trust.
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no problem posting time slips. If it wasn't for the fact the I recently purchased a new home and I'm not set up correctly with my PC I would have posted them. My buddy Vosko has them and I specifically told him yesterday to post them up. I'll ask again today.
On all of my runs I bagged consistent 14's. I'll be testing tomorrow again. Ill keep bringing up to date information on my Rx8 as I modify it and go along with power increase.
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yeah ito just called me. i have the timeslips. i'll take pix of the timeslips and post em up for you guys!

sorry i have been dealing with insurance companies about my other car and it totally slipped my mind woops
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14.69 and 14.5 runs.........ENJOY!
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Old 11-01-2003, 09:55 PM
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Ya'll don't use the same car numbers?
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