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Old 11-19-2003, 10:05 PM
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i just like pushing buttons......he deserves it
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i just like pushing buttons......he deserves it
I know, but that's what I am saying: It's not necessarily the car that deserves the smacking....you know what I mean?
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Trust me you cannot push my buttons, I know quite abit about racing and I know what I am talking about and some wacky comments about handling like a dump truck doesn't bother me, I think I may have to open the 350z flood gates after seeing that comment. And since I am on an rx8 forum I don't expect any of you to listen to anything I say because you people are in your rx8 fantasy world where you all think your car its the greatest thing to hit the road. But if you look on any other random forums the RX8 is treated as though it is a joke. Even the Crossfire people are bagging on your RX8.

The 350z gets respect on 90% of the forums, mostly because most other forums people have knowledge of cars and racing, no offense to this forum but 90% of this forum's makeup has no idea about cars or racing and just make random comments with no basis of facts.

I have seen comments like this on just about every forum..

"I went over to the RX8 forums and its such a joke, everybody whining about 1/4 times and nobody has a clue what they are talking about"

So no matter what you people say it doesn't bother me, because I know when people in other sports cars see me in my car they say "that thing is fast" not "that car is all looks and no go".

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hello all... i just wanted to say that the rx-8 looks sweet, and i was really considering it... maybe the new rx-7:D im impressed to see these times (14.6) im glad someonewas able to put it into that range. i love the rotary engine and i know this one is much more reliable than the previous 13b and 20b. im excited to see what comes out for this car. keep on keepin on guys:D
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Old 11-20-2003, 10:09 AM
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350Z Driver, When they see your great Z on that rare occasion at Autox events, they are not saying that car is fast, they are laughing outloud at the Z cars inability to perform or compete.

What happens when you hit an ocean, how do you get it pointed back in the other direction.

I have attended some Autox events and watched everything on the pad beat 350Z's, so badly they just stop coming. They stay downtown in their element, running light to light, and on their forum talking about 100 yard kills.
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So no matter what you people say it doesn't bother me, because I know when people in other sports cars see me in my car they say "that thing is fast" not "that car is all looks and no go".
I know this comment doesn't belong to a quarter mile thread, but: didn't the Z get spanked in a Tsukuba battle by the 8. They both were tunned, although I doubt any had FI. I believe most of the tuning was done to suspension and exhaust system.

Shouldn't that result have been the other way around? (I mean, if the 8 is all show and no go)
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The 350z gets respect on 90% of the forums
And I believe you! However, as I've been saying, you give them a real bad name.
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90% of this forum's makeup has no idea about cars or racing and just make random comments with no basis of facts.
And you are on the other 10% ?? Didn't they ever call you a snob?
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Originally posted by 350z Driver
"I went over to the RX8 forums and its such a joke, everybody whining about 1/4 times and nobody has a clue what they are talking about"
Wasn't that you?? Don't quote your own posts on other forums!!
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Originally posted by 350z Driver
So no matter what you people say it doesn't bother me, because I know when people in other sports cars see me in my car they say "that thing is fast" not "that car is all looks and no go".
That 'thing' is fast?? absolutely. You car is fast, but regardless of what car you are driving: you are still who you are. No need to repeat it. You car is amazing, no questions about it. But you are what we call an AH. No car will ever change that.
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Originally posted by 350z Driver
I think I may have to open the 350z flood gates after seeing that comment.
Was that a threat?
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Old 11-20-2003, 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by 350z Driver
you people are in your rx8 fantasy world where you all think your car its the greatest thing to hit the road.
And don't you think the same thing about yours (your car I mean!)?
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Alright, Post Count, here we go!
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350Z would be a fun car to drive if you didnt have to brake so hard on every turn. Its just not designed for curves. In a straightline its ok but gets whooped by the Evo, STi, S2K, even the dodge neon i think. The exterior i always thought was ugly, but its sorta grown on me. The inside sucks, the ride sucks, the price sucks, the handling is lame.....only advantage it has on the 8 is in a straight line where its far from the benchmark. Sucks to be a 350Z owner now that the 8 is out....
Are you kidding? Most of what you say is your own conjecture... You've got some points with the Evo and STi, but that's it. Your other points are either misinformed stats (if you can call them that) or simple opinions that are shared by few. At this point, I'd rather be a 350Z owner any day, but I will await the release of the RX-7 before considering anything that Mazda currently has to offer.
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well thats a post ***** if ive ever seen one......

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Now some Z owners know they got hosed, and their buzzing around and hanging their hats on one little facet (raw speed), where the Z has an edge.
Hosed on what? The Z is the one of the best priced sports cars on the market (sans all the amenities, which is in actuality really competitive). Why do you think that Z sales have skyrocketed? Because it's expensive?
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Go to any regional autox results page and you will see the RX-8 consistently beating times of the 350Z (when you can find a 350Z driver stupid enough to try and compete). 350Z's at autox have dried up, there were a lot two to three months ago, and they were no where close to competitive. You tell me where they all went. RX-8's are out there competing with everything in all stock classes.

i own a few cars... honda prelude si, audi S4, and nissan 350Z. by no means can my 350z compete with my audi (p.s. thats my favorite car:D ) and in fact i am contemplating trading in my Z. anyway you say the Z cant compete in autoX? here are some facts. automobile magazine tested the rx-8 at .90g right and .93g left. slalom of 70mph. the 350z tested in the same mag in the same article, .99g left .96g right. and slalom of 71mph. i frequently go autocrossing and i can assure you there are crappy drivers out there:D my frined has a 350z and i am ALWAYS beating him by at least 1 second, however i have racing experience. last time i went i beat a new m3, a 96 m3, and rx-8 and a 944 turbo. does this mean that my car is better? not necissarily.. those drivers could have sucked. my point is just because you beat someone on autocross doesnt mean you have a better car. i.e. the miatas that hand everyone their asses!! would you sell your rx-8 to buy one? i think not. im sure you encountered crappy drivers just as i have, but i dont like hearing people bash on cars. its immature to say the least. i have heard nothing but good thing about the rx-8 in handling, samwe with the Z. in every comparison they rated the Z better in hadling, they said it had a racier feel to it, and gave you more of an adrenaline rush. but i dont care, im still saying the rx-8 is awesome!!!! dont bash on cars, we are all car enthusiasts, so tuck in your E-***** and bring forth facts, not subjective matter like personal opinion.
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bobietoucher69 wrote:
"in every comparison they rated the Z better in hadling, they said it had a racier feel to it, and gave you more of an adrenaline rush. but i dont care,"

That is a bold faced lie, most comparisons that I have read give handling, hands down to the 8. Do a search, there are numerous thread on comparisons by the mags and very few give any handling edge to the Z, much less ALL.

You would think with the right driver that anything could compete at Autox, and with the great handling Z you would think that it might even give a bad driver an edge. IT DOESN"T COMPETE WITH AN EXPERIENCED OR BAD DRIVER!!! REAL LIFE, NOT MAGS.

bobietoucher69, If you don't like bashing others cars, than you too should hate 350Z driver (and other Z dicks), and the trash they are talking on an RX-8 forum. MY whole point is there is alot of bad that can be said about the Z, but are we going to their forum and telling them about it. NO, because what I see as a detriment to the Z, the Z owners might see as a positive, and vica versa. The RX-8 site is about driving, not killing.
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http://www.scca.org/amateur/solo2/na...groups/bs.html

350z takes 6th at SCCA cone dodging nationals. What happened to the lone RX-8?

http://www.grandamerican.com/race_re..._final111.html

The only 350z's in GS-II take 5th and 6th at Grand American.

http://www.scca.org/amateur/club_rac...2finalrace.pdf

350z takes 1st in GT-2 at Valvoline Runoffs.

http://www.scca.org/amateur/club_rac...2finalrace.pdf

350z takes 3rd in T-2 at Valvoline Runoffs.

So much for handling like a dump truck.

For all you North Texas yokels, I'm going to be at Motorsports Ranch on Dec 6-7 for the Driver's Edge ( http://www.thedriversedge.net ) DE. They're running the course clockwise so it oughta be new to even me. Come on out.

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automobile magazine gave it to the Z.. anyway thats not the point. you bashed the Z, i didnt bash the 8
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Originally posted by Chuck Clifford
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You would think with the right driver that anything could compete at Autox, and with the great handling Z you would think that it might even give a bad driver an edge. IT DOESN"T COMPETE WITH AN EXPERIENCED OR BAD DRIVER!!! REAL LIFE, NOT MAGS.

how do you figure? im telling you i beat one. i beat a lot of cars with my Z, maybe some people do bad with it because it has some serious power to the rear wheels, and they cant handle it? i dont know, anyway iom telling you that i haven placed below 2nd in ANY autocross events i have gone to.


bobietoucher69, If you don't like bashing others cars, than you too should hate 350Z driver (and other Z dicks), and the trash they are talking on an RX-8 forum. MY whole point is there is alot of bad that can be said about the Z, but are we going to their forum and telling them about it. NO, because what I see as a detriment to the Z, the Z owners might see as a positive, and vica versa. The RX-8 site is about driving, not killing.
your right i dont like even the 350z dicks who trash talk. but dont step down to their level and talk badly about the Z.
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Originally posted by 350z Driver
And since I am on an rx8 forum I don't expect any of you to listen to anything I say because you people are in your rx8 fantasy world where you all think your car its the greatest thing to hit the road. But if you look on any other random forums the RX8 is treated as though it is a joke. Even the Crossfire people are bagging on your RX8.

The 350z gets respect on 90% of the forums, mostly because most other forums people have knowledge of cars and racing, no offense to this forum but 90% of this forum's makeup has no idea about cars or racing and just make random comments with no basis of facts.
I totally respect 350z. My best friend got 350z and sometimes we switch car to drive, so I know what I'm talking about. I think you are trying to say z can win 8 in every catagory, but I don't agree on that. At least I think 8 can beat z in autox. I'm saying that by referring scca autox results. I did look on other forums. They all said 8 is slow in straight room acceleration, but they all respect the great handling of 8. So, 350z driver, test drive 8 and make some shape corners, you will find the difference.

P.S. Both 8 and Z are beautiful cars.
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Was that a threat?
Nope, a promise...
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agreed donald 121. i dont have a friend that owns one but i have test driven it. along with the sti and evo. i like the rx-8 dont get me wrong, i just dont think it can take the z in autox. granted the Z should be able to take it by much, but i think with equal drivers it should be close. granted you could be good driver and go against an average driver in a Z and win. but this holds no meaning for the car itself, i mean i beat an STI in autocross!! but so did the mini , miatas, civic , golfs, bmws, and evos. he was 1 second slower than my friend with a bone stock civic! do i think that the sti cant handle? no. i just think he was a bad driver. in handkling aspect the Z and 8 are very close, i think it would be a drivers race. btw i just saw a charcoal rx8 and it looked sweet!
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My bad boobietoucher69, I failed to realize that you do not capitalize any proper nouns. So when you said automobile magazine, I thought you meant in general, not Automobile Magazine. I have not read that compo, but it is rare. Very few comparisons that I have seen, give the Z better handling or better overall car when comparing the two head to head.

Don't believe all that you read, the Dodge Crossfire, in its own leaflet compared the 6 speed Crossfire to the Auto RX-8, just to have a few catagories to show Crossfire superiority.

I hope your girlfriends name ain't weeniemauler. How insensitive of me, you could be a women.
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