lol and it keeps on going and going and going..................the mods are probably sleeping right now. great.

 

I want to see a nerf bat fight to the death......

 

yeah, i dont know the guy here at all, but its not just here, over the last couple months a LOT of people have been acting very strange

 

so much for the poser comments, they cant even get phils car to run right!!! thats what probably got me skeptical about you guys.... all the time you guys had with phils car and never running right and im not just talking about during the rebuild..

 

blame the economy meltdown

 

I'm guessing mike has lost a ton of money in stocks/real estate/whatever and is taking out his frustration here. Or he's just an attention *****. One of the two.

 

or three
i dont brag about anything and i just dont like snakes and fakes and posers....

 

I never said you were bragging .. i implied you were being an attention seeking douche-waffle for no other reason then to be said waffle type.

 

Mike's simply trying to comment on stuff he knows nothing about. It's as simple as that. I'm more than willing to have a technical discussion about any of the projects that BHR has and is involved in.

The fact that Mike feels he has a grasp of the situation while having not been involved in anything he's commenting on, nor does he have any first had information other than what "somebody told him" he's just making it up as he goes.

Mike, you can be skeptical all you want. Do it in your own thread. Hell, go ahead and make a "calling out BHR" thread and post your points. Otherwise, stop thread crapping.

 

dude i wouldnt even let them touch my car!!!!
ok so your saying that i have never been involved in anything im commenting on????? and where are you getting your info from you need to check your people????? you thought you know but you dont, if anything you dont even know what your talking about the misinformation your sayin bout me. information that somebody told me please........making it up as i go......... dude what are you smokin????? pass that good cush!!!!!

 

Then you tell me how it is...if you know so much then spill it.

 

dude, i bearly go on this forum....what are you talking bout????

 

i dont have to go public about everything i do.... and who are you???? i dont need to tell you anything.

 

and aint nobody crapping anything..........

 

It shows.

Oh the typical "if you only knew what I knew" bit huh? Weak sause.

You don't know me? Wow, I thought I was famous!

 

we'll continue tomarrow stay tuned for chapter 2....

 

ok cool guy!!!! Mr i never met you but i know you..... what are you some type of mind reader? you a joke!



put up the duces U.B.Z

 

Todd, i'm surprised you're still wasting time with this guy.
This manifold discussion is interesting, even if i'm not a nitrous user what would the path to follow be so to avoid the problem on both A\T and M\T cars?

Please simply ignore this guy, 2 pages of discussion vs 3 of offtopic... get back on track!

 

Ha, I get carried away. For whatever reason several Vegas people have a problem with anybody involved with BHR.
As for the manifold situation...

There bottom line is some power adders are better suited for one transmission type over another. One discussion we've been having is how great a turbo setup is in an automatic because of the quick rise in manifold pressure at low RPM's which the auto usually runs at.

On the other hand, Nitrous requires more intake airflow and thus higher RPM's to be within a safe operating range.

Technically, having a zero overlap engine design would mean an nitrous backfire would be impossible or at least highly unlikely. Maybe a hot seal comes by with enough energy to ignite the fuel. Either way, the low RPMS and lower airflow allow fuel to puddle in the intake and BOOM.

For the most part, Erick was doing the same thing both times the manifold blew. Both times it was from either a dead stop or at least a slow roll. He goes WOT and the car takes off but at 2,500ish RPMS. The excess fuel starts to collect and then whamo.

Only real safe method of using Nitrous in the RX8 auto...or at least the 4 speed auto would be to get a start and then arm the Nitrous system once you get past a safe RPM.

 

yup, theres a lot of misinformation on this forum dont believe everything you read.

 

i had no prob with bhr.... you and your pirates started talking. so......someones gotta say something.

 

Thank you Todd, i thought something similar so i'm now a bit more fond of my ideas.
Is there a way to possibly solve the problem mechanically and not by simply changing the rpms where you arm the switch?

 

Ha, the whole thing started with your pal Vegaz bashing on BHR products remember?

In case you missed the banner in my sig, when you deal with me you're dealing with bhr...it's one of the same.

I've got nothing against Vegas people. I met a lot of you all in August when I was there with Charles Hill and Jeff Abrams. I was dissapointed that nobody except Phil showed up for the Mountain run but I guess we weren't cool enough to hang out with.

I stopped being civil to you and your friends when you stopped being civil with me.

I'm sure there is. There's two main ways to solve the problem. One way would be to incorporate a "window swtich" by which the nitrous would only activate between a certain RPM range. In that case, you arm the system and then go WOT until x RPMs when the system starts spraying.

The other option, and probably more realistic for the RX8 is a two stage system. You have the first stage which would spray maybe 50% to get you off the line and then go 100% when you hit stage 2. In the case of Zex I don't know if the stages are seperated by time, RPM, or some other factor.

The most obvious idea would be going to a stronger manifold but then you risk blowing apart the throttle body or whatever the next weakest part of the motor.

 

same goes with me im backing my guys up.
i never bashed bhr products... i was just looking into see if they really work...how is asking for a dyno bashing?????

 

I know you never bashed BHR stuff but your backing up your guys who did which is why you're finding the heated back and fourth.

I assume your talking about the BHR coils? Do they work? Well first let's talk about your defination of "work" because I feel I know what you're after.

If what you're asking is...do these coils provide increased spark over the OEM coils while also providing enough ignition capability to support forced induction platforms then yes they do work.

If you're simply asking do these coils provide a power increase, my answer to you at the moment is I honestly don't know. If you ask any of the 30+ customers so far who have these coils they have all said they felt a power increase. Whether it's from the replacement of bad coils or plugs or simply cause the coils increased the amount of fuel burnt is unknown.

Jedi's car was supposed to be the test subject. We worked out a controlled situation which we couldn't do, or expect from our normal customers.

We hooked jedi up with the coils and a fresh set of spark plugs. The plugs were installed prior to the dyno day. We took a baseline of his car with the oem plugs and the MSD wires BHR provides. After tuning his car yielded 202whp.

Then, we moved his car off the dyno, let the motor cool, and then I installed the BHR ignition kit in place of his oem coils. We put him back on the same dyno and performed another run. The first run we could clearly hear misfires.

So, we pulled out the timing light and found both leading coils were firing but the two trailing coils were not. We removed the wires, coils and other parts and tested them. The wires tested good but there was some kind of problem with 2 of the 4 coils.

As Jedi has posted, the coils were replaced under warranty and Jedi should have them installed soon.

We have a local Mazda dyno day at the end of February that, unless something changes, we're going to attempt to get a dyno run made then.

The only reason the dyno sheet hasn't been posted, to my understanding, is nothing can be learned from it. It's pointless to post a sheet when the part wasn't working correctly.

So, that's it.