fmzambon

Of course they are going to use it.

My point was (and still is ) that I don't think we will see that engine on the street very soon (that is to say, I wouldn't hope to find this engine in the restyled Rx-8).

DOMINION

Will this fit in my 8

ASH8

These are the BEST Pics yet of the new 16X...

Thanks to a new Australian Forum Member ORX-800

I thought I would repost here for others to see....

Thanks ORX!

ASH8

These are the BEST Pics yet of the new 16X...

Thanks to a new Australian Forum Member ORX-800

I thought I would repost here for others to see....

Thanks ORX!!!

ASH8

These are the BEST Pics yet of the new 16X...

Thanks to a new Australian Forum Member ORX-800

I thought I would repost here for others to see....

Thanks ORX!

Great Shots!!

DOMINION

Are the ports larger than the AT 4 port thats out right now?

eviltwinkie

It's a 6port....

Mazmart

iTrader: (12)

Eventually people will realize that the engine depicted is a 4 port. Whether that's what we'll get in production is another question.

Paul.

eviltwinkie

If you look at the "Blown Up" pic from the computer terminal...you can see them...

Its in the Aussie pic thread...I'll see if I can get link...

shaunv74

I think it is a 6 port. There is one intake port for each rotor in the center plate and then two intake ports for each rotor on the end plates. You can only see one intake port on the cutaway view because the endplate where the other 2 are has been removed.

Here's what I mean. The red circles encompass the intake runners for the 3 ports on the rear rotor.

rotarygod

How do you figure Paul? I see 6 ports. Even the cutaway view on the computer screen shows a 6 port and those plates are clearly the new aluminum units.

eviltwinkie

Found it....

Ajax

So are you guys saying that it's a 6 port from the upper intake manifold standpoint to the side housings, but those 2 ports feed into a single large port?

IE 2 intake runners -> 2 intake ports on the external side housing -> 1 intake port on the internal side housing?
Cuz that's what it looks like to me. I don't see the "aux port" on the interior of the housing.

rotarygod

It's there. Save it and zoom in closer.

Ajax

Seriously, this is what I'm talking about.


EDIT: Oh duh. i think i get it now. What that picture shows is the center plate and front rotor housing. The other port would be on the front plate.

rotarygod

If you are talking about what you see on the rotor housing face, that's the reflection of the rotor dish. That's the intermediate housing anyways. There has always only been 1 port there.

Ajax

Yea, see my edit above. I figured it out.

rotarygod

I keep saying rotor dish reflection. It's not. It's the reflection of the port.

Ajax

the ports on this thing look beautiful compared to the renesis.
i wish we could drop a fiber optic camera down them to see how they look inside.

rotarygod

They look about the same to me. Maybe just bigger. I think the Renesis ports are crap so what I can see from the pictures doesn't make me all that happy. I hate that siamesed exhaust port. I can only hope at the very least that the water jacket doesn't run in the exact same places around the ports that the current engine's do. Something tells me they do though. If that's the case, it is extremely hard to modify.

Nemesis8

iTrader: (3)

Anybody have access to this PDF link from the Green Car Congress web page?

RXLogic

Mazda debuts new-gen Rotary in Taiki show car

Hmm... maybe a Mazdaspeed RX8 with the 16X in 2009 or 10.

shaunv74

I wonder why the exhaust ports were packaged as rectangles? It seems like the flow would be better if they were full circles like the intake runners. Especially since they will be flowing into circular exhaust pipes. I would think that would be better for cooling as well since there would be more homogeneous heat transfer and wall temperatures.

eviltwinkie

Damnit stop making sense! Your making everyone else look bad...jeez...

Mazmart

iTrader: (12)

Oh my children , and I can get away with saying that because I'm getting up there.
I thought I'd show you some 4 port vs 6 port pics, lest you think I've totally lost it.

Paul.