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Old 02-12-2009, 07:34 PM
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Third, these supposed RX-7/RX-9 will have their own fair share of issues, especially with an all-new rotary and twin-clutch transmission. Look at the RX-8, they're still making some substantial improvements after 5 years of production. I certainly wouldn't be one of the first people in line for an all-new sports car (but that goes for any make/model).

The ONLY cool thing I would hold out hope for is an RX-7 convertible. Other than that, my next car is going to be an MX-5 or RX-8. Not waiting around for these imaginary 16X cars.
I cant help but agree with you on the problems, if you look at what mazda had to go through with these problematic engines in early models, even having to put out an extended waranty i doubt i would own a 1st or even 2nd year model. ill wait for a 3rd year model at the earliest before considering a next gen rotary car.

I would like to see the next RX go back to a 2 seater, but something larger than a miata. Not quite roadster yet not quite rx8 size...somethin similar to the new 370 dimmensions.

lastly i think a convertable rx would be hot esp if it was a hard top vert...yea i know weight.....maybe soft top with an optional hard top add on...or better yet maybe a coupe with a removeable targa...that would be hot.
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what does zoom do that he would know all this info before hand?
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Old 02-12-2009, 07:51 PM
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I hope they don't tweak the formula much. The extra punch sounds frightening but I'm concerned the car would feel less intuitive with that tranny.
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:01 PM
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All you guys of little faith. I would damn well wish to own the 1st new RX-7/8/9 vehicle that hits the dealers here abouts with a new rotary body/engine. I did for the RX-8 back in '03, and Mazda has taken care of me, the car is fine (actually better than new with a brand new JDM engine in it).

I actually had put down my deposit in '01 before the design was even finalized. Damn it was worth it to have one of the first! You should have seen/heard the catcall from the streets when I 1st drove around in my brand new RX-8. You'd a thunk it was a $200,000 exotic, people crowded around, yelled from the sidewalk, came after me into stores to ask me what it was, etc.

If Mazda actually admitted to this I might do something similar again. Why not? You get the most exclusive vehicle around...and that's worth street cred in spades. You can't buy that kind of excitment and fun owning a new car, it only comes from a car built with a soul like the RX-8.

Whatever Mazda does with the rotary, you can bet on it being beyond cool.

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Old 02-12-2009, 08:09 PM
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talk to people - really i only heard this same thing from a journalist but was waiting to see someone print it before posting anything. things get said but then thigns get put on back burners and you look silly.

several of us(paul from mazmart , me etc) have been saying they will/should push the rx-8 slightly "upmarket" and land a new 7 below it in true 2 door form.

RG and I and others talked to the man in charge of the tranny development 2 7stocks ago. we mentioned it then. but everything takes sooo "long" in development time.

a twin clutch manual is a "proper" manual- no fracken torque converter. if you think its not a proper tranny because it doesnt have a clutch pedal for your left foot ive got one of those for you- im about to corner the aftermarket with these

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Old 02-12-2009, 08:38 PM
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At 2640lbs / 270hp it would have pretty much exactly the same hp:weight ratio as the 370z.

I'm not surprised Mazda would actually go through with it.... by the time the economic poop hit the fan, they were probably so far along the development cycle that it made more sense just to keep going, even with lowered sales expectations.

Having said that though, if there's no traditional manual version, I ain't buyin one.
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:47 PM
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several of us(paul from mazmart , me etc) have been saying they will/should push the rx-8 slightly "upmarket" and land a new 7 below it in true 2 door form.
I can't imagine why they would do that, the last "upmarket" rotary, the JC Cosmo was pretty much a failure.
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:00 PM
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keeping my 8 until this comes out! then all bets are off!! lol
+1 I can't wait until the pre-production designs start to come out. This'll be good!
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Lack of a manual will drive the nails in the coffin. FFS Mazda don't alienate your faithful.
A manual trans would be much cheaper to make than a dual clutch tranny. Makes no sense why they couldn't offer both??? The dual clutch trans will easily add at least 2-3K to the price.
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:19 PM
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I am super excited about these rumors. We haven't had a lot of RX news in a while. Please Mazda, we want!!
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:39 PM
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I am super excited about these rumors. We haven't had a lot of RX news in a while. Please Mazda, we want!!
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:49 PM
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Thanks, till you start getting the mileage I have been getting lately. Its been getting bad, even for an RX8

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Old 02-12-2009, 09:59 PM
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If the rumor started off with the trans. It could be just a tranmission developed for the RX-8 and MX-5. Specially for the RX-8 to handle higher revs and to put all the power produced by the renesis down.
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:32 PM
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Autoblog is reporting tranny options of a standard manual and dual clutch gearbox... and they claim their source is IL.
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/12/r...-rx-8-to-be-c/
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:51 PM
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yeah highly doubt standard manual transmission is gonna get completely eliminated, why would any sane company get rid of a proven, cheap (relatively) transmission design that people actually WANT?
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Originally Posted by Ajax
Autoblog is reporting tranny options of a standard manual and dual clutch gearbox... and they claim their source is IL.
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/12/r...-rx-8-to-be-c/

That's good to hear. I was privy to the ADD-A-PEDAL but stopping short, that kickstand would likely come loose.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:50 PM
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270+hp and 2.7K weight? I guess with all options its probably around 2.9K.

I buy it, period.
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Theres more credibility to this RX7 / RX9 story , than the one of you guys getting yourselfs and the rest of the world out of this financial mess in a short period of time


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Old 02-13-2009, 12:07 AM
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thanks for the link, corssing my fingers and knocking on wood.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:15 AM
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good news well see if mazda come through.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
270+hp and 2.7K weight? I guess with all options its probably around 2.9K.

I buy it, period.
I hope mazda prices it more than 2.9k.... they'll go out of business pretty quick with a business plan like that.
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thats the pic on the Jap magazine...
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That guy in Germany or wherever who's put a renesis into a Miata (the Miata is dark green with yellow stripes running down the middle of the car). Can someone find out what kind of MPG he's getting?

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2600 lbs + 270hp = very nice. Too bad they can not get it to 300hp though.
Don't worry, Canzoomer, RP, and Scott will get us there.
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Originally Posted by 8 Maniac
I hope mazda prices it more than 2.9k.... they'll go out of business pretty quick with a business plan like that.
NYCGPS is talking about weight, not price.

Hopefully we get a real weight decrease, unlike the 370z. BTW, the 370z actually weighs about 50 lbs more than the last 350z. All the hype in the media about weight reduction actually pertained to a portion or portions of the car in which they trimmed a couple hundred lbs. However, the WHOLE car actually weighs a little bit more! Talk about deceptive marketing and advertising.

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thats the pic on the Jap magazine...
You mean on the Japanese magazine, right?
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