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Old 10-18-2004 | 03:59 PM
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Why wouldn't my rusty brakes/hubs be covered under warranty?

I don't think a new car should have visible rust - any! I want Mazda to take care of it. It looks like crap. These cars have 5 years worth of rust protection... I think this counts.

Anyone have any experience with this topic?

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Old 10-18-2004 | 04:01 PM
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So what happened when you went to the dealer? Where are the pics?
Old 10-18-2004 | 04:08 PM
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i noticed that problem to with some of the 8's they had sitting out on the dealership lot for most of the bloody winter(i think they were out there for at least 3 months)! I told them if my car has rust on the brakes like that I would refuse to accept it. Fortunatley the 8 I recieved just came off the boat from Japan and there was 0 rust.. If mine had rust(and it was very excessive from what I saw on the lot), i'd be pissed as well and expect that to be covered (or cleaned) under warrenty..


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Old 10-18-2004 | 05:30 PM
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EVERY car I've ever owned with disc brakes would develop rust when left for a day or two without use, from many different manufacturers: Nissan, Honda, Mazda (Miata and 8)
Not to sound harsh, but if this is your biggest issue, i suggest you move to someplace with no moisture.
Old 10-18-2004 | 06:05 PM
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no offense... but you are completely delusional if you think its unacceptable for brake rotors to rust between uses, for gods sake they are exposed pieces of steel


...and i wonder why i visit this forum less and less
Old 10-18-2004 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 800Degrees
I don't think a new car should have visible rust - any! I want Mazda to take care of it. It looks like crap. These cars have 5 years worth of rust protection... I think this counts.
You're wrong - brake rotor rust does NOT count with respect to rust warranty. Brake rotors are consumable items, for one - and they're made of unprotected steel/iron, for god's sake! What do you expect them to do?

Sorry, but rotors rust, on many varied cars. It's no big deal, and your dealer (a Mazda dealer or any other car dealer) won't do anything about it - nor should they.

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Old 10-18-2004 | 06:22 PM
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I think he may be referring to the brake HUBs, not the rotors. I have seen 8's hubs that looked like total crap - on the dealer’s lot no less! If Mazda sees fit to expose the brakes as they do with our 8's, they should have had at least the smarts to paint the hubs and calipers to keep them from looking so bad, so quickly, IMHO.

Here are two pics as example stolen from another post by RatedRX8
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Old 10-18-2004 | 06:33 PM
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the rotors show rust on all cars. maybe if you get to replace them with carbon fiber rotors :D on the hubs it sucks a bit that it shows, i agree.

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Old 10-18-2004 | 06:37 PM
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I made a template from cardboard and paint them with high temp paint after a good wire brush job.

All the cars on the lot get it. Some people take issue with it most don't
Old 10-18-2004 | 08:32 PM
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My 8 has a little rust too. I didn't see it at first but my brother came home and that was the first thing he pointed out. I know the rotors rust but IMHO the hub shouldn't. I plan on going to the dealer this weekend and complaining about this and a couple other things.
Old 10-18-2004 | 09:34 PM
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Keep in mind that the warranty is for rust-through (if I remember correctly), not simply rust. Lots of people get screwed with that, unfortunately, when thry have rust on their body panels. The dealers won't do a thing until they can poke a screwdriver through it.
Old 10-19-2004 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pr0ber
no offense... but you are completely delusional if you think its unacceptable for brake rotors to rust between uses, for gods sake they are exposed pieces of steel


...and i wonder why i visit this forum less and less

No offense? What an *******. Yes, I took offense. Did you read the damn post before calling me delusional. Did I say ROTORS? No. Did I say HUBS? Yes. I know rotors will develop a light rust in moist conditions. Should HUBS show significant rust on a new car no.

Per your comment, I wish you'd visit this forum less and less... *******.
Old 10-19-2004 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Spin9k
I think he may be referring to the brake HUBs, not the rotors. I have seen 8's hubs that looked like total crap - on the dealer’s lot no less! If Mazda sees fit to expose the brakes as they do with our 8's, they should have had at least the smarts to paint the hubs and calipers to keep them from looking so bad, so quickly, IMHO.

Here are two pics as example stolen from another post by RatedRX8
This is exactly what I was referring to (thanks!). Based on, Bob's understanding of the warranty, it sounds like the thing to do is sand and paint the hubs and calipers - probably won't qualify under the warranty coverage.

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Old 10-19-2004 | 06:31 AM
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Man those hubs look ugly!
Unfortunately not covered under warranty but should be easy to fix.
Old 10-19-2004 | 06:33 AM
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All the RX8s will have it, unless your car is never exposed to water.

The rust will start to form within seconds of being sprayed with water.
Old 10-19-2004 | 06:37 AM
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And you get alot of car time if you fix them
I did you should check out the pix they came out awesome.
just sand em down
then paint em takes 45 mins if you have a impact gun and a nice jack and jack stands.
Old 10-19-2004 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 800Degrees
No offense? What an *******. Yes, I took offense. Did you read the damn post before calling me delusional. Did I say ROTORS? No. Did I say HUBS? Yes. I know rotors will develop a light rust in moist conditions. Should HUBS show significant rust on a new car no.

Per your comment, I wish you'd visit this forum less and less... *******.

good... i am going to visit this forum less because of pansy *** whiny babies like you... oh my brakes rust, oh my brakes squeal, oh i beat the **** out of my car and get bad gas milage. You'd think this was a Toyota Prius forum instead of a "sports car" enthusiast forum

..whatever
Old 10-19-2004 | 07:44 AM
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Prober (as in ********), you're an *******.
Old 10-19-2004 | 07:51 AM
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Chill out guys before a Mod steps in.
This site is not for hating, it's for educating.
Old 10-19-2004 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by nojooc
Chill out guys before a Mod steps in.
This site is not for hating, it's for educating.
Agreed - I apologize.
Old 10-20-2004 | 08:47 AM
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Anyway I already posted a solution to this, Mazda has to paint your rotor hubs if you want them too. It's under the 12000 mile/12 month short warranty. I know this because I just had this done by the dealer at no charge. Search the forum for rusting rotors solution. I posted it.
Old 10-20-2004 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SiCkRx-8
Anyway I already posted a solution to this, Mazda has to paint your rotor hubs if you want them too. It's under the 12000 mile/12 month short warranty. I know this because I just had this done by the dealer at no charge. Search the forum for rusting rotors solution. I posted it.
Thanks SiCkRx-8! Found your post, printed the copy of Lisa's letter - so the dealer doesn't think I'm making it up...

And thanks for not telling me that rotors will develop rust in moist conditions
Old 10-20-2004 | 02:17 PM
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I painted the back ones myself, the ones on the front are not too bad yet. The dealer's answer was they are metal - they rust. Well check out a few other cars in your nearby parking lot, garage or whatever. You won't find very many new cars a year old or less with rust on the hubs. This is an issue with RX-8s. I looked at the ones sitting on the lot last time I was at the dealer and most of them had it. Think they are going to sell a "new" car with rust on it? Next time I go in I am going to mention it to them again.
Old 10-20-2004 | 03:57 PM
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Be thankfull this RX-8 does not belong to you! This is 8 months of rust...
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