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800Degrees 10-18-2004 03:59 PM

Why wouldn't my rusty brakes/hubs be covered under warranty?
 
I don't think a new car should have visible rust - any! I want Mazda to take care of it. It looks like crap. These cars have 5 years worth of rust protection... I think this counts.

Anyone have any experience with this topic?

Thanks.

brothervoodoo 10-18-2004 04:01 PM

So what happened when you went to the dealer? Where are the pics?

MrJynx 10-18-2004 04:08 PM

i noticed that problem to with some of the 8's they had sitting out on the dealership lot for most of the bloody winter(i think they were out there for at least 3 months)! I told them if my car has rust on the brakes like that I would refuse to accept it. Fortunatley the 8 I recieved just came off the boat from Japan and there was 0 rust.. If mine had rust(and it was very excessive from what I saw on the lot), i'd be pissed as well and expect that to be covered (or cleaned) under warrenty..


MrJynx

bluesunlion 10-18-2004 05:30 PM

EVERY car I've ever owned with disc brakes would develop rust when left for a day or two without use, from many different manufacturers: Nissan, Honda, Mazda (Miata and 8)
Not to sound harsh, but if this is your biggest issue, i suggest you move to someplace with no moisture.

r0tor 10-18-2004 06:05 PM

no offense... but you are completely delusional if you think its unacceptable for brake rotors to rust between uses, for gods sake they are exposed pieces of steel


...and i wonder why i visit this forum less and less

Gord96BRG 10-18-2004 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by 800Degrees
I don't think a new car should have visible rust - any! I want Mazda to take care of it. It looks like crap. These cars have 5 years worth of rust protection... I think this counts.

You're wrong - brake rotor rust does NOT count with respect to rust warranty. Brake rotors are consumable items, for one - and they're made of unprotected steel/iron, for god's sake! What do you expect them to do?

Sorry, but rotors rust, on many varied cars. It's no big deal, and your dealer (a Mazda dealer or any other car dealer) won't do anything about it - nor should they.

Regards,
Gordon

Spin9k 10-18-2004 06:22 PM

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I think he may be referring to the brake HUBs, not the rotors. I have seen 8's hubs that looked like total crap - on the dealer’s lot no less! If Mazda sees fit to expose the brakes as they do with our 8's, they should have had at least the smarts to paint the hubs and calipers to keep them from looking so bad, so quickly, IMHO.

Here are two pics as example stolen from another post by RatedRX8

Ophitoxaemia 10-18-2004 06:33 PM

the rotors show rust on all cars. maybe if you get to replace them with carbon fiber rotors :D on the hubs it sucks a bit that it shows, i agree.

james

snap-on 10-18-2004 06:37 PM

I made a template from cardboard and paint them with high temp paint after a good wire brush job.

All the cars on the lot get it. Some people take issue with it most don't

1st-car 10-18-2004 08:32 PM

My 8 has a little rust too. I didn't see it at first but my brother came home and that was the first thing he pointed out. I know the rotors rust but IMHO the hub shouldn't. I plan on going to the dealer this weekend and complaining about this and a couple other things.

carnut 10-18-2004 09:34 PM

Keep in mind that the warranty is for rust-through (if I remember correctly), not simply rust. Lots of people get screwed with that, unfortunately, when thry have rust on their body panels. The dealers won't do a thing until they can poke a screwdriver through it.

800Degrees 10-19-2004 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by pr0ber
no offense... but you are completely delusional if you think its unacceptable for brake rotors to rust between uses, for gods sake they are exposed pieces of steel


...and i wonder why i visit this forum less and less


No offense? What an asshole. Yes, I took offense. Did you read the damn post before calling me delusional. Did I say ROTORS? No. Did I say HUBS? Yes. I know rotors will develop a light rust in moist conditions. Should HUBS show significant rust on a new car no.

Per your comment, I wish you'd visit this forum less and less... Asshole.

800Degrees 10-19-2004 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Spin9k
I think he may be referring to the brake HUBs, not the rotors. I have seen 8's hubs that looked like total crap - on the dealer’s lot no less! If Mazda sees fit to expose the brakes as they do with our 8's, they should have had at least the smarts to paint the hubs and calipers to keep them from looking so bad, so quickly, IMHO.

Here are two pics as example stolen from another post by RatedRX8

This is exactly what I was referring to (thanks!). Based on, Bob's understanding of the warranty, it sounds like the thing to do is sand and paint the hubs and calipers - probably won't qualify under the warranty coverage.

Thanks.

RXE16T 10-19-2004 06:31 AM

Man those hubs look ugly!
Unfortunately not covered under warranty but should be easy to fix.

mysql101 10-19-2004 06:33 AM

All the RX8s will have it, unless your car is never exposed to water.

The rust will start to form within seconds of being sprayed with water.

magixpuma 10-19-2004 06:37 AM

And you get alot of car time if you fix them
I did you should check out the pix they came out awesome.
just sand em down
then paint em takes 45 mins if you have a impact gun and a nice jack and jack stands.

r0tor 10-19-2004 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by 800Degrees
No offense? What an asshole. Yes, I took offense. Did you read the damn post before calling me delusional. Did I say ROTORS? No. Did I say HUBS? Yes. I know rotors will develop a light rust in moist conditions. Should HUBS show significant rust on a new car no.

Per your comment, I wish you'd visit this forum less and less... Asshole.


good... i am going to visit this forum less because of pansy ass whiny babies like you... oh my brakes rust, oh my brakes squeal, oh i beat the piss out of my car and get bad gas milage. You'd think this was a Toyota Prius forum instead of a "sports car" enthusiast forum

..whatever

800Degrees 10-19-2004 07:44 AM

Prober (as in assholes), you're an asshole.

RXE16T 10-19-2004 07:51 AM

Chill out guys before a Mod steps in.
This site is not for hating, it's for educating. :)

800Degrees 10-19-2004 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by nojooc
Chill out guys before a Mod steps in.
This site is not for hating, it's for educating. :)

Agreed - I apologize.

SiCkRx-8 10-20-2004 08:47 AM

Anyway I already posted a solution to this, Mazda has to paint your rotor hubs if you want them too. It's under the 12000 mile/12 month short warranty. I know this because I just had this done by the dealer at no charge. Search the forum for rusting rotors solution. I posted it.

800Degrees 10-20-2004 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by SiCkRx-8
Anyway I already posted a solution to this, Mazda has to paint your rotor hubs if you want them too. It's under the 12000 mile/12 month short warranty. I know this because I just had this done by the dealer at no charge. Search the forum for rusting rotors solution. I posted it.

Thanks SiCkRx-8! Found your post, printed the copy of Lisa's letter - so the dealer doesn't think I'm making it up...

And thanks for not telling me that rotors will develop rust in moist conditions ;)

foxman 10-20-2004 02:17 PM

I painted the back ones myself, the ones on the front are not too bad yet. The dealer's answer was they are metal - they rust. Well check out a few other cars in your nearby parking lot, garage or whatever. You won't find very many new cars a year old or less with rust on the hubs. This is an issue with RX-8s. I looked at the ones sitting on the lot last time I was at the dealer and most of them had it. Think they are going to sell a "new" car with rust on it? Next time I go in I am going to mention it to them again.

Irish_in_a_RX8 10-20-2004 03:57 PM

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Be thankfull this RX-8 does not belong to you! :) This is 8 months of rust...

Rupes 10-20-2004 05:16 PM

That's a sin.

-Rupes


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