Why do people hate the rx-8 SO much?
12-29-2009, 09:14 AM
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^Ive dealt with similar issues, especially considering most of my friends drive nothing but domestic sports cars (mustang, camaro blah blah), dont get me wrong I do love muscle cars but after buying my rx8 (very first import) I grew to love it very quickly.
Anyways I constantly hear bullshit about my car whenever we hang out but one of my best friends is in that group as well and he tells me what else they say when I'm no where to be seen. And let me just tell you, that really dont hate the 8 that much at all
Anyways I constantly hear bullshit about my car whenever we hang out but one of my best friends is in that group as well and he tells me what else they say when I'm no where to be seen. And let me just tell you, that really dont hate the 8 that much at all
12-29-2009, 09:49 AM
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IMO, I feel most think it's not as fast as it looks and hence the pessimistic attitude towards it, as simple as that.
I've had a few people when on the road traveling ask, "Is that thing as fast as it looks?" To cut it short with all the explanations, I just say "once you get past 1st gear."
But haters in general? Never really had any so far. If any family members talked me up on it (I have a super sized plus extended family) I just take them for a run through the turns well over what their usual car or even muscle car would dare to do and it gets them a grin every time.
I've had a few people when on the road traveling ask, "Is that thing as fast as it looks?" To cut it short with all the explanations, I just say "once you get past 1st gear."
But haters in general? Never really had any so far. If any family members talked me up on it (I have a super sized plus extended family) I just take them for a run through the turns well over what their usual car or even muscle car would dare to do and it gets them a grin every time.
12-29-2009, 03:58 PM
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People who hate RX-8's likely fall into two categories.
1) They've never driven one
2) They've driven one but don't know how to drive worth sh*t
Once they've driven one, and if they are true drivers, the RX-8 may not be their cup of tea, but it would be impossible for them to hate this car.
1) They've never driven one
2) They've driven one but don't know how to drive worth sh*t
Once they've driven one, and if they are true drivers, the RX-8 may not be their cup of tea, but it would be impossible for them to hate this car.
12-29-2009, 05:52 PM
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people hate it cuz it doesn't have tons of power and it doesn't have the ability to look good with a wal mart body kit. Funny thing is, I bet you the majority of 8 haters hate on cars like the civic si less than the 8. The civic has vtech you!! and those FWD burnouts are sooo hott!!!
12-29-2009, 06:10 PM
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Frankly in some respect I hope people keep on hating on the RX8 as I love being under estimated.
I was on a mountain drive about a month ago and managed to get around a stock evo that was pushing pretty hard. He was very interested what was done to my RX8 as I took him by surprise. I honestly think he wasn't as confident in his car as I am in mine but I'll take what I can get.
I see complaints about lack of power all over the place. People cry because a Camery can outrun the RX8 in the 1/4 mile and how the excuse is "I would nail them in the twisties!"
My first road course experience was rather shocking because I was surrounded by very capable vehicles including several Mini's and a boosted Prelude just thinking off the top of my head. These cars couldn't keep up with me. I'm not a fantastic driver and I still need loads of seat time but the RX8 is certainly capable in the corners and even more so with a well tuned suspension package.
The rotary has drawbacks. What motor doesn't? A for sure thing means you'll be sharing the same car with lots of other people and being the best, fastestest or whatever means loads of $$$.
I still love the way people rubber neck when I cruise around town and how I get surprised looks when I'm left standing still in the straights but blow by on the curves.
I'll take being under estimated any day. It makes the experience that much more fun!
I was on a mountain drive about a month ago and managed to get around a stock evo that was pushing pretty hard. He was very interested what was done to my RX8 as I took him by surprise. I honestly think he wasn't as confident in his car as I am in mine but I'll take what I can get.
I see complaints about lack of power all over the place. People cry because a Camery can outrun the RX8 in the 1/4 mile and how the excuse is "I would nail them in the twisties!"
My first road course experience was rather shocking because I was surrounded by very capable vehicles including several Mini's and a boosted Prelude just thinking off the top of my head. These cars couldn't keep up with me. I'm not a fantastic driver and I still need loads of seat time but the RX8 is certainly capable in the corners and even more so with a well tuned suspension package.
The rotary has drawbacks. What motor doesn't? A for sure thing means you'll be sharing the same car with lots of other people and being the best, fastestest or whatever means loads of $$$.
I still love the way people rubber neck when I cruise around town and how I get surprised looks when I'm left standing still in the straights but blow by on the curves.
I'll take being under estimated any day. It makes the experience that much more fun!
12-29-2009, 08:24 PM
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why rx8?
Ok,I traded my 335i(2007) for a 2009 rx8gt (not a r3). The BMW was an expensive hod rod and Kraut **** with an absolutety terribe dealer. My city has radar every ten blocks. Note I got my license in 1956 and have had highly modified bmw for thirty years and alfa,s and audis as well bmw driving courses as well. So the 335i was an at(first one in 40 years). The rx8 is fun to drive. It is like the old English roadsters, Much work but fun to drive. One does not have to drive fast! soon the miata short shiffter!
12-29-2009, 08:53 PM
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People hate on the 8 because they've never driven a car on the track (or they drive 4000+lbs muscle cars).
At first I thought the 8 was fast. Mind you, my previous car was a shoe with 800ccs of rampaging Japanese horses. Then as time passed, I got tired of it. It couldn't even keep up with econo hatches that seem to speed past me every time they see me.
But then I took it to the track. My life has changed since then. I still get a lot of **** from the local car club about having a car with so little torque, it couldn't even pull their sister's panties off. Some claim their lawnmower makes more torque.
But they don't get it. They don't understand the magic that is the RX-8's chassis. Power be damned, I pass Porsches and Corvettes all day at the track. Sure, the engine is too slow for what the chassis can handle, but it is precisely that trait that makes the RX-8 easy to push. I use every last bit of horsepower I can get, and it's a wonderful experience doing that.
Bottom line: The RX-8 is a fun car. **** the naysayers. They don't get it. Zoom-Zoom Forever.
At first I thought the 8 was fast. Mind you, my previous car was a shoe with 800ccs of rampaging Japanese horses. Then as time passed, I got tired of it. It couldn't even keep up with econo hatches that seem to speed past me every time they see me.
But then I took it to the track. My life has changed since then. I still get a lot of **** from the local car club about having a car with so little torque, it couldn't even pull their sister's panties off. Some claim their lawnmower makes more torque.
But they don't get it. They don't understand the magic that is the RX-8's chassis. Power be damned, I pass Porsches and Corvettes all day at the track. Sure, the engine is too slow for what the chassis can handle, but it is precisely that trait that makes the RX-8 easy to push. I use every last bit of horsepower I can get, and it's a wonderful experience doing that.
Bottom line: The RX-8 is a fun car. **** the naysayers. They don't get it. Zoom-Zoom Forever.
12-29-2009, 08:57 PM
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Depends on what you want out of those other cars and what you consider "faster" to really be. You can look no further than Mazda's own lineup and make some comparisons.
The Speed3 would be considered "faster" than the RX8 due to it's larger power gap and FI platform. Search around as someone posted up a review of a Speed3 and RX8 to see the differences. The two cars really are very different.
In some respects, the speed3 and RX8 have a lot in common. Both are usable as daily driven vehicles, have Mazda quality and are capable machines. Still, I argue that the RX8's fit and finish as well as overall appearance is much more sporty than the RX8.
My room mate's Speed6 is a "faster" vehicle as the Speed6 has about 40 to 50whp over my RX8. However the Speed6's heavier weight and larger design makes it hard to handle in corners where as the RX8 thrives there.
Is the RX8 the fastest car in it's class? No it's not. However, I think the RX8 gets a seriously bad rap because you don't get jammed into your seat puching the throttle.
The RX8 is designed around smoothness not brute force. The steering, engine response and handling are designed to be graceful. It's the difference between a sharp knife and a hammer. Each tool is useful and has it's place but one is not better than the other.
The Speed3 would be considered "faster" than the RX8 due to it's larger power gap and FI platform. Search around as someone posted up a review of a Speed3 and RX8 to see the differences. The two cars really are very different.
In some respects, the speed3 and RX8 have a lot in common. Both are usable as daily driven vehicles, have Mazda quality and are capable machines. Still, I argue that the RX8's fit and finish as well as overall appearance is much more sporty than the RX8.
My room mate's Speed6 is a "faster" vehicle as the Speed6 has about 40 to 50whp over my RX8. However the Speed6's heavier weight and larger design makes it hard to handle in corners where as the RX8 thrives there.
Is the RX8 the fastest car in it's class? No it's not. However, I think the RX8 gets a seriously bad rap because you don't get jammed into your seat puching the throttle.
The RX8 is designed around smoothness not brute force. The steering, engine response and handling are designed to be graceful. It's the difference between a sharp knife and a hammer. Each tool is useful and has it's place but one is not better than the other.
12-29-2009, 09:02 PM
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Depends on what you want out of those other cars and what you consider "faster" to really be. You can look no further than Mazda's own lineup and make some comparisons.
The Speed3 would be considered "faster" than the RX8 due to it's larger power gap and FI platform. Search around as someone posted up a review of a Speed3 and RX8 to see the differences. The two cars really are very different.
In some respects, the speed3 and RX8 have a lot in common. Both are usable as daily driven vehicles, have Mazda quality and are capable machines. Still, I argue that the RX8's fit and finish as well as overall appearance is much more sporty than the RX8.
My room mate's Speed6 is a "faster" vehicle as the Speed6 has about 40 to 50whp over my RX8. However the Speed6's heavier weight and larger design makes it hard to handle in corners where as the RX8 thrives there.
Is the RX8 the fastest car in it's class? No it's not. However, I think the RX8 gets a seriously bad rap because you don't get jammed into your seat puching the throttle.
The RX8 is designed around smoothness not brute force. The steering, engine response and handling are designed to be graceful. It's the difference between a sharp knife and a hammer. Each tool is useful and has it's place but one is not better than the other.
The Speed3 would be considered "faster" than the RX8 due to it's larger power gap and FI platform. Search around as someone posted up a review of a Speed3 and RX8 to see the differences. The two cars really are very different.
In some respects, the speed3 and RX8 have a lot in common. Both are usable as daily driven vehicles, have Mazda quality and are capable machines. Still, I argue that the RX8's fit and finish as well as overall appearance is much more sporty than the RX8.
My room mate's Speed6 is a "faster" vehicle as the Speed6 has about 40 to 50whp over my RX8. However the Speed6's heavier weight and larger design makes it hard to handle in corners where as the RX8 thrives there.
Is the RX8 the fastest car in it's class? No it's not. However, I think the RX8 gets a seriously bad rap because you don't get jammed into your seat puching the throttle.
The RX8 is designed around smoothness not brute force. The steering, engine response and handling are designed to be graceful. It's the difference between a sharp knife and a hammer. Each tool is useful and has it's place but one is not better than the other.
Afterall I do own an RX8 after owning more powerful cars.
To be honest, I enjoy this car alot more with boost. I removed my turbo kit a few months back and I can't live without the extra power. That is why I am buying a new FI kit next month.
12-29-2009, 09:14 PM
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Every owner I've talked to that has gone FI all say the same thing. The car should have came this way.
12-29-2009, 09:58 PM
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thanks guys i just wanted to make sure everyone felt the same way like me. People just dont know an rx8 until you get in it and take it to the track.
12-29-2009, 10:45 PM
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At work my car gets called an RC car all the time. I hear things like how long do you have to charge the car to drive it or where you put the batteries in that. Seeing as most of the people I work with have trucks don't take it to heart. Plus I always shoot back at them so hey whens you next car payment due and they usually shut up lol.
12-29-2009, 10:56 PM
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People tend to hate things that are "different" and the 8 is by no means normal. I'll admit before I drove one I was a hater too, now I can't go to bed without peeping on it in the garage :o.
What I don't understand is the psychopaths that call it ugly. If this car had any more curb appeal, dogs would hump it.
What I don't understand is the psychopaths that call it ugly. If this car had any more curb appeal, dogs would hump it.
12-30-2009, 01:45 PM
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Depends on what you want out of those other cars and what you consider "faster" to really be. You can look no further than Mazda's own lineup and make some comparisons.
The Speed3 would be considered "faster" than the RX8 due to it's larger power gap and FI platform. Search around as someone posted up a review of a Speed3 and RX8 to see the differences. The two cars really are very different.
In some respects, the speed3 and RX8 have a lot in common. Both are usable as daily driven vehicles, have Mazda quality and are capable machines. Still, I argue that the RX8's fit and finish as well as overall appearance is much more sporty than the RX8.
My room mate's Speed6 is a "faster" vehicle as the Speed6 has about 40 to 50whp over my RX8. However the Speed6's heavier weight and larger design makes it hard to handle in corners where as the RX8 thrives there.
Is the RX8 the fastest car in it's class? No it's not. However, I think the RX8 gets a seriously bad rap because you don't get jammed into your seat puching the throttle.
The RX8 is designed around smoothness not brute force. The steering, engine response and handling are designed to be graceful. It's the difference between a sharp knife and a hammer. Each tool is useful and has it's place but one is not better than the other.
The Speed3 would be considered "faster" than the RX8 due to it's larger power gap and FI platform. Search around as someone posted up a review of a Speed3 and RX8 to see the differences. The two cars really are very different.
In some respects, the speed3 and RX8 have a lot in common. Both are usable as daily driven vehicles, have Mazda quality and are capable machines. Still, I argue that the RX8's fit and finish as well as overall appearance is much more sporty than the RX8.
My room mate's Speed6 is a "faster" vehicle as the Speed6 has about 40 to 50whp over my RX8. However the Speed6's heavier weight and larger design makes it hard to handle in corners where as the RX8 thrives there.
Is the RX8 the fastest car in it's class? No it's not. However, I think the RX8 gets a seriously bad rap because you don't get jammed into your seat puching the throttle.
The RX8 is designed around smoothness not brute force. The steering, engine response and handling are designed to be graceful. It's the difference between a sharp knife and a hammer. Each tool is useful and has it's place but one is not better than the other.
i would have done the analogy of a scalpel to a meat cleaver, but i suppose a sharp knife and a hammer both work...
12-30-2009, 02:34 PM
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Bravo sir, and have a cookie! :D
*EDIT* I was the same way, really. I had never seen one IRL before, and I was driving around in my RX-7. Never payed much attention for some reason. Then, I saw one IRL and did a test drive.....the rest is history.
12-30-2009, 04:32 PM
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12-30-2009, 07:08 PM
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For 232 hp it's real fast, especially around curves and corners. In it's price range I think it's a tie for good looks with the S2000. Overall it is an excellant handling and comfortable sportscar that can be used as a practicle dailey driver. It would be a perfect 10 if it got 30mpg. Nuff said.
12-30-2009, 09:11 PM
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Of course it is fast. If you want to know how slow normal cars are, just take the onramp while in 5th gear the whole time. That is the normal speed of normal cars.
hahaha "slowest car in its class"? There is no other car in its class. It is a 4 door, front midship rotary coupe. You might as well call it the "fastest car in its class" as well.
hahaha "slowest car in its class"? There is no other car in its class. It is a 4 door, front midship rotary coupe. You might as well call it the "fastest car in its class" as well.
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