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Shijin-Kun 12-28-2009 12:09 PM

Why do people hate the rx-8 SO much?
 
I dont understand why rx7 owners and "sports" car people hate the rx8 so much. Just look at the replies to the " Report: Mazda RX-7 is the new RX-8" article in Jalopnik. Heres a few exerts.

"The rx-8 never really lived to the reputation of the rx-7.

the rx-8 played with small sports cars and tried to be practical and friendly,
the rx-7 played with big sports cars of the 90's and was built to be a sports car.

maybe they are confessing that the rx-8 wasn't a step foward the the rx legacy..."

"That would be nice, but really, how hard will they have to work to improve on the looks of the RX-8? That's a brilliant-feeling car, but holy crap is it ugly and slow."

Any comments?

CTrx8 12-28-2009 12:39 PM

i don't understand why rx8 owners and "sports" car people care what others say about their car. if you like it, be happy with that. it didn't have the power that people wanted from it b/c a lot like low end torque and american muscle. the 8 was designed to appeal to more people, be somewhat practical, and yet handles like none other in its class. enjoy it and don't worry about what others say.

mushkid 12-28-2009 12:41 PM

the people they speak of nowadays are stupid teens, all they want is a faster car. i got my 8 3 weeks ago, it was between the 8 and a s2000; i eneded up choosing the 8 cuz it looks superiorly more beatiful and i like the drive better, speed was not a factor i have a 07 tl-s and a kl-ze mx6 for speed, the "people" they talk about are morons who underestimate the renesis motor just like people underestimated the kl-ze, it's all about preference.

comparing the rx-8 to a rx-7 is stupid, but then again stock the 8 makes like 238hp n/a and the rx7 was 270hp w/turbo? (correct me if i'm wrong). in the end i love the rx-8, companies are making cars with 300+ hp for what? to speed? i mean come one here in america the highest speed limit is 70-75mph, why do you need a car with an exaggerated amount of hp.

idk it's just my .02 cents

Bigbacon 12-28-2009 12:44 PM

cause people only look at HP.....and then torque.

8 doesn't have a lot of both so in most minds that = shit.

Brettus 12-28-2009 12:47 PM

I've heard it said a few times now that the 8 is "ugly" .
That really surprises me - I'm sure 99% of people think it looks great .
I get a sense that only old school rotary guys say that - they are looking for ways to dis the car because they are dissapointed with the performance ...

nycgps 12-28-2009 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by mushkid (Post 3366971)
the people they speak of nowadays are stupid teens, all they want is a faster car. i got my 8 3 weeks ago, it was between the 8 and a s2000; i eneded up choosing the 8 cuz it looks superiorly more beatiful and i like the drive better, speed was not a factor i have a 07 tl-s and a kl-ze mx6 for speed, the "people" they talk about are morons who underestimate the renesis motor just like people underestimated the kl-ze, it's all about preference.

comparing the rx-8 to a rx-7 is stupid, but then again stock the 8 makes like 238hp n/a and the rx7 was 270hp w/turbo? (correct me if i'm wrong). in the end i love the rx-8, companies are making cars with 300+ hp for what? to speed? i mean come one here in america the highest speed limit is 70-75mph, why do you need a car with an exaggerated amount of hp.

idk it's just my .02 cents

SA22C, which means the original RX-7, makes about hmm was it 110 hp?

then it was like 130, then 168 hp, NA

For Turbo, FC made about 180 hp, and FD was 255, and later the Spirit-R model pushing 280hp (Japan's limit back then)

lots of idiots and those 2f2f wannabes think that "Power = Fast", these morons dont know to win a race, you actually need good suspension setup and good set of Brakes.

So when Rx-8 came out, they was like "omfg, only 238 hp? fuxking my civic has 200~ wtf fuxking slow" lmao.

XDEEDUBBX 12-28-2009 12:51 PM

i think the 8 is beautiful! But they are right about one thing, its not fast.

Shijin-Kun 12-28-2009 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3366985)
I've heard it said a few times now that the 8 is "ugly" .
That really surprises me - I'm sure 99% of people think it looks great .
I get a sense that only old school rotary guys say that - they are looking for ways to dis the car because they are dissapointed with the performance ...

I have been to a couple of meets where rx-7 owner dis the looks and the performance of the 8 actually even some mazda owners too.

nycgps 12-28-2009 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by XDEEDUBBX (Post 3366991)
i think the 8 is beautiful! But they are right about one thing, its not fast.

are you trying to say its not quick or its not fast

cuz they're 2 different things.

mushkid 12-28-2009 12:55 PM

thanks!! but still the renesis motor is impressive in my standards,

Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3366990)
SA22C, which means the original RX-7, makes about hmm was it 110 hp?

then it was like 130, then 168 hp, NA

For Turbo, FC made about 180 hp, and FD was 255, and later the Spirit-R model pushing 280hp (Japan's limit back then)

lots of idiots and those 2f2f wannabes think that "Power = Fast", these morons dont know to win a race, you actually good suspension setup and good set of Brakes.

So when Rx-8 came out, they was like "omfg, only 238 hp? fuxking my civic has 200~ wtf fuxking slow" lmao.


nycgps 12-28-2009 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Shijin-Kun (Post 3366995)
I have been to a couple of meets where rx-7 owner dis the looks and the performance of the 8 actually even some mazda owners too.

Well, you can ask them do they enjoy overheating ?(to FD guys)

or

Do you enjoy fucked up Automatic seat belt that might get you kill in an accident?(FC S5 guys)

I can bring up more examples :)

Shijin-Kun 12-28-2009 01:06 PM

lol i never knew that

Razz1 12-28-2009 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by XDEEDUBBX (Post 3366991)
i think the 8 is beautiful! But they are right about one thing, its not fast.

and that's why you sold your Rx8 for an SUV

lamo...........

9krpmrx8 12-28-2009 01:12 PM

The RX-8 target market are professional, tech savvy guys in their 30's - 40's. I think those of us that fall in that category (or did fall in that category) appreciate the 8 for what it is. If you buy and 8 and then complain about how slow it is then you should not have bought it in the first place.

If I wanted a street bruiser I could have bought a number of cars but they would have been disappointing in a number of other ways. My only gripe with the 8 is the reliability aspect and the fact that Mazda did a shitty job of torture testing it.


I have owned a number of fast cars and having a car that makes HP and TQ easily is definitely no fun because eventually you start breaking drive train parts on a regular basis and upgrading those parts is mega expensive. Either we no car will satisfy your every need, every car lacks something.

Razz1 12-28-2009 01:15 PM

People forget speed kills, butt all they want is a fast car so they can text while speeding.

9krpmrx8 12-28-2009 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Razz1 (Post 3367038)
People forget speed kills, butt all they want is a fast car so they can text while speeding.


Yep, and most of the guys who want "fast cars" have never been on a race track in their lives. To me it's like dating Vida Guerra and never having sex with her.

nycgps 12-28-2009 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 3367034)
The RX-8 target market are professional, tech savvy guys in their 30's - 40's. I think those of us that fall in that category (or did fall in that category) appreciate the 8 for what it is. If you buy and 8 and then complain about how slow it is then you should not have bought it in the first place.

If I wanted a street bruiser I could have bought a number of cars but they would have been disappointing in a number of other ways. My only gripe with the 8 is the reliability aspect and the fact that Mazda did a shitty job of torture testing it.


I have owned a number of fast cars and having a car that makes HP and TQ easily is definitely no fun because eventually you start breaking drive train parts on a regular basis and upgrading those parts is mega expensive. Either we no car will satisfy your every need, every car lacks something.


Im not 30-40 ... can I be part of the "appreciate" group ? :) :rock:


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 3367043)
Yep, and most of the guys who want "fast cars" have never been on a race track in their lives. To me it's like dating Vida Guerra and never having sex with her.

Can I have Taylor Swift instead ?

Easy Driver 12-28-2009 01:28 PM

Practical sports car design + impractical engine = weird.
To many, weird = bad.
To people who like this car, weird = good.

9krpmrx8 12-28-2009 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3367051)
Im not 30-40 ... can I be part of the "appreciate" group ? :) :rock:


Can I have Taylor Swift instead ?




Yes you are definitely and exception! Our red headed step child in fact :)


And Taylor Swift is way too tall for you!

nycgps 12-28-2009 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 3367064)
Yes you are definitely and exception! Our red headed step child in fact :)

rofl. :beer05:



And Taylor Swift is way too tall for you!
She belong with me !!!!!!!! :fingersx:

ZumnRx8 12-28-2009 02:02 PM

The 8 is fast if you are used to driving a lower car than the 8. :yesnod: The handling comes as a BONUS. :yesnod:

nx04 12-28-2009 02:14 PM

im 19 and i got the 8 for the way it is the power it performs is way more than enough for driving you dont need a rocket ship for day to day driving

the rx8 is a car if you want to enjoy what you drive to a very nice extent

ZumnRx8 12-28-2009 02:22 PM

^yup

The Reverend 12-28-2009 02:26 PM

The RX8 is a bit of an odd duck in many ways so it is not surprising of the "hate" it gets

/worthless post

CaptainEggs 12-28-2009 02:27 PM

i agree with CTrx8... you bought the car for YOUR enjoyment NOT theirs...


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