swoope

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yawn,

you forgot to mention the flooding and bad gas mileage..

beers

04RX8man

yeah my 04 at 60mph in 6ht is 3000 rpm's too but I understand that rotaries are meant to be reved so yeah when you "hammer on it" in 6ht at 60 it's ot gonna throw u to the seat but slam it in 3rd all your power will b right there...but there is lots of other cars so go bother them not us ......peace.......

GaMEChld

Yeah I saw that Top Gear a couple weeks ago, fun stuff. Love that line "Doesn't feel like it's running on anything as course and vulgar as petrol. It feels like it's running on double cream."

Huskyfan23

That's been posted here 3000 times. Great video, but more of a promotion for the RX8 than anything.

ShinkaTeen

dear dale.

ever seen fantastic 4?

flame on.






p.s I hate you.

MazdaMan423yrs

WOW!

I expected to get slammed, but I didn't expect so many ignorant replies. I don't think a single one of you read what I wrote, at least not with an open mind. All of the replies seem like they came from 19 year olds on dope and think they know everything. Just completely ignorant. I was warned about this forum being like that.

1. How could one person's observations and opinions be wrong?
2. I am not a driver? Get off your high horse and don't make me post my driving resume, because I'd just look like some idiot tooting his own horn. I've raced Mazdas since 1992 in just about every venue you can think of (and won in all of them). I've also instructed high-performance driving since 2000. I get excellent reviews from my students.
3. What the hell is with the Mustang comments? You actually think that because somebody doesn't like the RX-8's speed that he automatically like Mustangs? Where the hell did that mentality come from?
4. I know what over/understeer is and the 8's that I drove definitely suffered from it. Nobody even bothered to mention that tire pressures and alignments could have been off. I did say that the R3 was right on. Sheesh.
5. I didn't forget to mention the transmission gearing changed. I just said "the new gearing" because the transmission and final drive ratio changed.
6. As my screen name implies... I am a Mazda enthusiast. I didn't come in here to stir things up. Don't be so defensive. I joined this list to learn about the 8 because I was considering buying one. I've raced turbo RX-7s and Spec Miatas, so I've experienced one end of the speed scale to the other. I know rotaries love the high revs and don't make peak power/torque until you're way up there. When I test drove the R3, I kept it revved because it felt natural. I shifted routinely around 6500rpms. the only time I got the tires to chirp was between 2 & 3 on an uphill, and yes, the DSC was off. I'm sorry, but the car didn't even feel as fast as the stock '87TII I used to have, which was only rated at 182hp and similar torque.
7. Sorry, no exotic cars for a daily driver here. My last Mazda was a modified '93, so I was spoiled by it's power and torque. It accelerated like a bat outta hell from the get-go to almost it's 8700rpm redline (aftermarket ECU). I didn't expect the R3 to be as quick, but I IDID expect a noticeable improvement over the previous RX8s I had driven. But there wasn't. Not even with the gearing. All I noticed was the higher revs/gear. There MIGHT be a difference in lap times, but it the difference was undetectable during a test drive.
8. I've beaten 100% of the people who have made smack-talking comments like yours. In autocross. In drag racing. In road racing. In the One Lap of America. Remarks like yours are both arrogant and ignorant. Those who deduce somebody doesn't know how to drive because of one post to a forum are inexplicably the real dumbasses.
9. I can't believe the immediate name calling. I guess those who warned me about this forum were right.

swoope

iTrader: (5)

lets start here.

you drove a r 3 where?

beers

Rootski

iTrader: (1)

Dale, come on. Seriously? You posted on an RX8 fansite about how much you don't like the RX8. What did you expect? For people to say, "Yeah, you're right, our cars suck. Thanks for posting!" Or maybe for us to offer some bold insight that would change your mind? It is what it is- we can't say anything to change your perception. If you don't like the car, then don't buy it, we don't really care. But don't go shooting your mouth off to people that do like it.

PS- if you expected the R3- or the '09 model as a whole, for that matter- to be noticeably different, then you didn't research very well. It's just a facelift. A restyling. That's all. Yeah, they changed the gearing, but you forgot to take into account that they changed the wheel size to 19", negating it and adding more unsprung weight.

Also, I expected that an HPDE instructor/Spec Miata racer would appreciate the finesse-over-power nature of the RX8, but to each his own I guess. Some people like to be able to fix their mistakes with their right foot. My instructors have always been very impressed with my car.

ShinkaTeen

dear,
Dale.



What the hells your problem dude?.


p.s i dont hate you as much as last time.

love,
Ivhan

and im 18 not 19.

MazdaMan423yrs

Well, I really like the way the RX-8 R3 looks and handles. I like the access to the rear seat, which can comfortably fit an adult if/when necessary. But I need speed. Like I said, I was spoiled by my last RX-7, which had it all... looks, speed, handling. But now I have a baby and need something with a reasonable rear seat. I really wanted to love the RX-8, not just like it. I went to the dealer (in Irwin, PA for he who asked) with checkbook in hand. I was really hoping to be impressed enough with the speed to buy it. I wonder what Mazda's plan is for the 16X they're working on. If it finds it's way into the RX-8, I'll definately revisit the dealer.

swoope

iTrader: (5)

interesting,

as the car is on recall right now..

a few points..

first if you are stifting at 6500 rpm you are missing the point. second the understeer / oversteer was likely tire pressure. or if it was a new car, release compound.. but you should know that as a racer type.. the suspension has not changed.

the 16x will not help you if you dont rev over 6500 rpm..


it really is a great car on the track.. ask someone with one on you next track day. and as you instruct. maybe get a ride or drive one..

i know i had one of the really fast instructors that owns an rx8 drive mine to help me sort the suspension.. everyone learned...

beers

ShinkaTeen

i think.

i dont hate you anymore...

so we can be friends now.

RufusVonStorm

Dale

Did you keep the revs above 6k on the track?
If so, you should notice something happening when you mash the gas

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

hmm ok, I made it to the moon. Yep, I did.

Nothing wrong with that. but at least back it up with "reasonable" facts.

We dont need to know nor do we cared about ur background

Its your comment that matters.

Yep, most of us here think so.

Let me quote ur earlier msg for a second

Have you ever thought that, you simple do not understand how this car works ?

You said 04 and 06 has an opposite problem when both of them has the suspension setup. Why dont u mention the "alignment" and tire pressure earlier? Mr. experienced instructor. Oh let me give you another one. Tire Wear.

and point ?

6,500 rpm? that simply means u do not know this car. enough said.

Again, that simply means u do not know **** about RX-8.

What kind of respect u expect us to give you when comments like : "oh 04 I drove had oversteer and the 06 was understeer" when both cars got the same suspension. Obviously u simply dont know what u're talking about.

Yep, whoever warned u is right. Cuz you dont even know what you're talking about, Mr. Expert.

erx8s

Hi guys those of you on the forum for the last 5 years know me as Lock & Load etc etc changed names a few times

Anyhow i just finished driving the NEW RX-8 GT here in Australia ( R3 in your part of the world )

The car had only done 21 km so a brand new , overall the car feels smoother than my 03 RX8 slightly more composed with the Bilstein shocks and front and rear suspension settings more of a 3D type go kart feel .

The gear box felt tight with much shorter throws than the original RX8 BUT NOT AS GOOD AS MY CURRENT RP short shifter .

The need to shift 3 times instead of 2 before hitting the 100km mark makes the 0 - 100 km time a bit slower .

Power felt about the same but the delivery was smoother


The biggest difference to me was under the car , yes i got the dealer to put the car on a hoist so i could have a peak .

Mazda has made quite a few changes in the gearbox that may be that of a MX5 (MIATA ) but with a totally different housing

Theres a lot of heat shielding around the fuel tank , gearbox and catalyctic converter area , the cat seems smaller thinner type with the 02 sensors altered to a higher position .

Overall the underneath of the car looks much more proffesionally finished the heat shield under the engine is no longer made from plastic but metal .

Those of you who initially complained about the Beep at redline being to soft will be happy to know its now louder

The car has definetely matured smoothed out and possibly is a better finished more complete car but you would expect that after 5 years .

It will be a great buy second hand , but in my mind not enough has been done for me to really want to go out and purchase a new one .

As far as the front and rear end looks go , beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Cheers
Michael

swoope

iTrader: (5)

where did you get such info.. hehe..

the really big change is the ppf is on the other side. which should help in lots of ways...

i think is why it looks more tidy!

for transmission on the 09 info.

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...9+transmission

and mike, am jealous you got to drive one first!!

and the rp shifter is amazing..

beers

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

It will be great if we can direct bolt on the 09 tranny to our 8 ...

Huskyfan23

as said before, it's clear that the OP does not know how to drive this car. Shifting at 6500 RPM? That's barely even getting into the rotary powerband. Go test another RX8 and take it up to it's redline, 9000 RPM and then come back. It's not an engine that has a lot of torque, but it does have good pull btwn 6 - 9k.

We'll be awaiting your "insightful" comments once you've truly experienced the RX8, not half experienced it.

Socket7

HEY! I'm 23 goddamnit. Everything else is true though.

6.5K RPM? Thats like my shift point when the engine is cold. or if I'm in heavy traffic and can't go fast.

I really think a honda would suit you better.

rxaddict

I still can't help but think this is joke, but at least everything he writes is coherent enough for everyone to flame him for it.

T-ReX-8

iTrader: (1)

Shifting at 6.5K..

Someone get this guy out of here.. that's like shifting a Vett at 4000rpms...

swiftnet

MazdaMan's original comment's do not sound like a seasoned drivers comments. They sound very 'troll like'. As for his rebuttal, winning in all the races he entered, I seriously doubt it. Racing doesn't work that way, there are too many variables, plus Mazda and drag racing don't really go well together. I'm referring to quote" I've raced Mazdas since 1992 in just about every venue you can think of (and won in all of them)."
I also find fault with the understeer/oversteer quote "Nobody even bothered to mention that tire pressures and alignments could have been off." Umm... I would've voiced my concern to the salesperson if a car known for its handling, was noticeably understeering or oversteering. I test drove a an Evo that was low on power, I told the sales guy that something wasn't right and he promptly got me into another Evo that kicked *** (and destroyed my kidney's). I knew that something was wrong because Evo's are known to be powerful. I did not got to an Evo forum and say "Evo's are slow and sound like they are farting", even though the first one I drove sucked because someone didn't tighten the manifold bolts properly (just a guess).
The Gen III '7' while being faster than the '8' wasn't that much faster. 0 to 60 times were like 5.2~5.4 for the 7 and are 5.9~6.1 for the 8. Not a huge difference. I know what real acceleration is and I've only been impressed by a couple of cars in my life. All of these cars had over 400whp. Real acceleration is on a 'Busa or Zed14, 0-60 in 2.5 seconds.

Greek Racer 8

Why would you be in 6th going 60 and flooring it. Eveyone knows the 8 loves being in the high revs on the highway. Put it in 3rd or 4th going 60 and then floor it.

Renesis07

iTrader: (1)

OP: I got the perfect car for you!! A crossfire, buy one of them!!!!

RojoOcho

*yawn*

kkthxbye