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Red line envy 06-08-2019 01:50 PM

Also would the car being up on a lift trigger the security and stop it from starting or turning over

1300CC 06-08-2019 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Red line envy (Post 4890010)
Also would the car being up on a lift trigger the security and stop it from starting or turning over

Long shot, but worth a try, disconnect the battery and depress the brake pedal a bunch of times (the goal here is to drain any residual power in the system.) Reconnect the battery, and then give it another shot. I've had this happen to me twice, and that has fixed it. If none of the electrical components in the car were switched, there shouldn't be any reason as to why you are getting that immobilizer warning.

Loki 06-08-2019 02:43 PM

Also how did they even give you the car back in this condition? Get them to own their work...

Red line envy 06-08-2019 03:18 PM

They didn't touch the car. I took the engine out and brought it to them. Then i got it back and put it in.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...f807c384b9.jpg
Not super clean but 1000 times better

Red line envy 06-08-2019 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by 1300CC (Post 4890013)
Long shot, but worth a try, disconnect the battery and depress the brake pedal a bunch of times (the goal here is to drain any residual power in the system.) Reconnect the battery, and then give it another shot. I've had this happen to me twice, and that has fixed it. If none of the electrical components in the car were switched, there shouldn't be any reason as to why you are getting that immobilizer warning.

Just tried it and nothing changed. Next stop is the dealer.

Red line envy 06-08-2019 07:24 PM

When I was taking things apart to get to the grounds on top of the engine I notice the tiny black cube with one wire going to it and the wire has broke off. My questions is what is the tiny black cube? It's with the main harness that is right on top of engine and the cube bolts down to the engine.

Kimura 06-08-2019 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by Red line envy (Post 4890019)
When I was taking things apart to get to the grounds on top of the engine I notice the tiny black cube with one wire going to it and the wire has broke off. My questions is what is the tiny black cube? It's with the main harness that is right on top of engine and the cube bolts down to the engine.

Just a guess, ignition condenser?
https://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/9...A1-66-991.html

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...098b18838b.jpg

Red line envy 06-08-2019 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Kimura (Post 4890021)

Yes. That's it. Would that be my problem?

UnknownJinX 06-08-2019 11:30 PM

All that condenser does is canceling out the electric noises, so not related to your problem here.

Red line envy 06-09-2019 08:26 AM

Well I'm taking it to the dealer and I'll post again when problem is solved. Wish me luck so I don't get raped

jcbrx8 06-09-2019 01:21 PM

Red, Check out the below thread re: t-shooting the Ignition Immobilizer.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tro...-start-204371/

Good luck. Hopefully, this helps. :)

Red line envy 06-09-2019 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by jcbrx8 (Post 4890045)
Red, Check out the below thread re: t-shooting the Ignition Immobilizer.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tro...-start-204371/

Good luck. Hopefully, this helps. :)

Thank you it gave me some things to check. I do have a coil kit but it's from Bennet built not BHR

Red line envy 06-09-2019 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by jcbrx8 (Post 4890045)
Red, Check out the below thread re: t-shooting the Ignition Immobilizer.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tro...-start-204371/

Good luck. Hopefully, this helps. :)

I love you and I love this site. This link everything. It was the ground on the coil kit. It had a fray in the wire. Thank you sooooo much

Red line envy 06-09-2019 05:31 PM

Now just to get it to start the first time . It's always hard I guess

jcbrx8 06-09-2019 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by Red line envy (Post 4890059)
I love you and I love this site. This link everything. It was the ground on the coil kit. It had a fray in the wire. Thank you sooooo much

:icon_tup:

jcbrx8 06-09-2019 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by Red line envy (Post 4890063)
Now just to get it to start the first time . It's always hard I guess

Push start it.

Then slowly drive / modulate the accelerator (rpms) to keep it running until it will idle. Expect considerable white smoke from assembly lube, ...which is normal. WATCH temps... and as soon as you can check for coolant and oil leaks.

Red line envy 06-10-2019 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by jcbrx8 (Post 4890080)
Push start it.

Then slowly drive / modulate the accelerator (rpms) to keep it running until it will idle. Expect considerable white smoke from assembly lube, ...which is normal. WATCH temps... and as soon as you can check for coolant and oil leaks.

I had to push it last time as well but this time I have a bad master clutch cylinder so I have to change that before proceeding. The main thing is it's rolling over and it's so close to staring. Just needs a bigger kick like you said I gotta bump it

jcbrx8 06-10-2019 09:35 AM

Red,

Meanwhile, if you're interested...check out my build thread for first start-up issues & resolutions of my turbo 8...after my first time doing an engine rebuild... earlier this year. (Below link, beginning at post #170). Of course, you may encounter the same...or different issues..., but the process w/b the same...: one issue... one resolution at a time.

The Forum's "SMEs" subject to your discretion..., and "Advanced Search" are your friend. :)

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-maj...-268497/page7/

All the best...good luck.

Red line envy 06-10-2019 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by jcbrx8 (Post 4890102)
Red,

Meanwhile, if you're interested...check out my build thread for first start-up issues & resolutions of my turbo 8...after my first time doing an engine rebuild... earlier this year. (Below link, beginning at post #170). Of course, you may encounter the same...or different issues..., but the process w/b the same...: one issue... one resolution at a time.

The Forum's "SMEs" subject to your discretion..., and "Advanced Search" are your friend. :)

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-maj...-268497/page7/

All the best...good luck.

Thank you for this I I read all upto the boost and all the numbers for tuning. Haha I'm not into that stuff yet. But I does look like it's best to push start an 8 with a fresh engine.

NotAPreppie 06-10-2019 11:07 AM

Both my crappy OJ Imports rebuild, reassembled crappy OJ Imports rebuild, and Mazda reman fired up after a slightly longer than usual crank.

This was after priming the oil system by manually running the starter (filter off, run wire from B+ to spade connector on starter, stop when oil starts flowing out of the filter pedestal) and priming the fuel system (key off, key on for a few seconds, repeat several times).

Maybe I just got lucky.

Red line envy 06-10-2019 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by NotAPreppie (Post 4890114)
Both my crappy OJ Imports rebuild, reassembled crappy OJ Imports rebuild, and Mazda reman fired up after a slightly longer than usual crank.

This was after priming the oil system by manually running the starter (filter off, run wire from B+ to spade connector on starter, stop when oil starts flowing out of the filter pedestal) and priming the fuel system (key off, key on for a few seconds, repeat several times).

Maybe I just got lucky.

I did the priming. Of both systems as well but I took fuel pump fuse out and oil filter off and cranked a lil until the wife saw oil. The put filter back and fuse back and primed the fuel. Only thing that may be weak is the new starter I ordered on Amazon. Maybe it's not really as fast. I'm gonna try my old starter. It still works just wanted a new one.

Red line envy 06-14-2019 06:26 AM

Missed out on a 04 parts car for 200$. It's rotten but I would have gotten the wire harnesses, lights, fuse box, stereo and best of all an engine to tinker with. 😡

Red line envy 06-14-2019 08:34 PM

So I'm getting one hour with the junk car haha. First thing in the morning. Can't wait. I'll post some pics of the loot lol

Red line envy 06-15-2019 08:33 PM

I pulled the 8 with my truck and it started almost right away. But when it was running it would not idle which is norm for a fresh build I get it. But shouldn't the car be able to move on it's own power? Could this be the throttle body. Or TPS? which is in the throttle body. Or o2 sensor. It is from Amazon. I'm gonna swap some parts tomorrow morning and see what happens.

Red line envy 06-16-2019 01:08 PM

Ok got it running and it's good at first until the closed loop starts. My codes? Well o2 censor 1 bank 1. 😁 Gonna try to get the one off the junk car and try it.but can't get at it till tomorrow afternoon. Also happy Father's Day to all the dads out there


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