Mazda is not a Ford, Ford does not own Mazda
08-17-2007, 03:45 AM
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08-17-2007, 07:32 AM
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I'd just like to add not all fords are a POS. My dad's 89 mustang gt hit 170,000miles w/o a problem on a total of about 8 oil changes. (not counting recalls) When we pulled the motor and rebuilt it to sell the car it was still in pretty good shape, just all the gaskets were total crap.
08-17-2007, 08:43 AM
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Well, I had a Mazda Mx6 1990 - Rusted.
08-17-2007, 11:06 AM
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http://www.mazda.com/investors/stockinfo/situation.html
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0...nvest-500.html
http://www.conceptcar.co.uk/news/gen...signnews14.php
as well as people
http://en.rian.ru/world/20070726/69739727.html
http://www.businessweek.com/autos/co...e_autos%20lede
and without this investment Mazda would be producing cars now with no budget to advertise them.
08-17-2007, 11:34 AM
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I used to have a lot of fun with that fact when hearing the old Chevy vs. Ford debates. I owned a 86 Malibu and a 91 Escort GT and would get asked which brand I liked better. I would comment "Well my Chevy hasn't started in 2 years". To which the Ford group would start laughing. I would then add "and my Ford actually has a Mazda engine...". The faces I got were always good for a laugh (from me that is).
Malibu is long gone. Escort has 185K on it and only takes oil changes to keep running with 28/32mpg. It really changed my mind on mazda engines after I got it.
Malibu is long gone. Escort has 185K on it and only takes oil changes to keep running with 28/32mpg. It really changed my mind on mazda engines after I got it.
08-17-2007, 11:38 AM
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gonna have to call ya on that one homie. you have sat in my 03 cobra with 46k miles on it and every single interior panel is in the car.
as for the noises inside, well, guess thats why you put a louder exhuast on it.
btw- i'd be glad to prove what kind of pos my slow *** mustang is to anyone that thinks of it so.
better bring your A game.
as for the noises inside, well, guess thats why you put a louder exhuast on it.
btw- i'd be glad to prove what kind of pos my slow *** mustang is to anyone that thinks of it so.
better bring your A game.
08-17-2007, 11:41 AM
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this thread is still alive?! 
08-17-2007, 11:47 AM
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08-17-2007, 12:03 PM
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Wow, people here do not like Ford. Ford is a global company that owns Jaguar, Land Rover, Volvo, and a healthy portion of Mazda. The first two are not profitable due to the low volume market and high labor costs in Great Britain. Volvo makes a decent profit every year (around $700 Million). And Mazda has been sharing Ford platforms and engines since the mid - 1990s.
Lastly, Ford sucks in North America, there is no question about that. The only two cars that really sell well are Mustangs and Pick-ups. But in Europe, it's an entirely different beast. Ford makes a healthy profit on the Mondeo and Focus in Western European countries. In Russia, Ford has the largest market share of cars sold, even larger than the domestic carmakers there. In Romania, the locals are praising Ford like Gods because they are buying out the local carmaker there.
IMO Ford is the Detroit company that is most likely to survive compared to GM or Chrysler.
Lastly, Ford sucks in North America, there is no question about that. The only two cars that really sell well are Mustangs and Pick-ups. But in Europe, it's an entirely different beast. Ford makes a healthy profit on the Mondeo and Focus in Western European countries. In Russia, Ford has the largest market share of cars sold, even larger than the domestic carmakers there. In Romania, the locals are praising Ford like Gods because they are buying out the local carmaker there.
IMO Ford is the Detroit company that is most likely to survive compared to GM or Chrysler.
08-17-2007, 12:03 PM
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what? we should stop now? this has been going on in our little corner of the world since 2002
https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/ford-mazda-767/
https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/hey-ford-lets-keep-mazda-mazda-1036/
here's a juicy one from 2005
https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/mazda-ford-48831/
and another in 2006
https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/mazda-ford-88727/
and those are just the ones from the "similar threads" box at teh bottom of this thread
https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/ford-mazda-767/
https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/hey-ford-lets-keep-mazda-mazda-1036/
here's a juicy one from 2005
https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/mazda-ford-48831/
and another in 2006
https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/mazda-ford-88727/
and those are just the ones from the "similar threads" box at teh bottom of this thread
08-17-2007, 12:29 PM
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im a bit sketchy on the whole ranger /b series thing.
it looks like there is 2 different trucks. the American one(s) built here by ford and the one(s) for everywhere else built by mazda (on a different chassis?) in thailand
it looks like there is 2 different trucks. the American one(s) built here by ford and the one(s) for everywhere else built by mazda (on a different chassis?) in thailand
08-17-2007, 01:46 PM
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Ford just doesn’t quite get the fun of driving a really responsive car.
I test drove a T-bird last year - what a disappointment. Even a Mark VII drives better.
Hell- even my wife's old DeVille drives more responsively.
This spring, just for grins, I autocrossed the ’94 DeVille.
I was only 2 seconds slower than the Stangs – in a 4500 lb limo!
I might even have shaved another second if I had used the parking brake to swing the rear around the hairpin.
I test drove a T-bird last year - what a disappointment. Even a Mark VII drives better.
Hell- even my wife's old DeVille drives more responsively.
This spring, just for grins, I autocrossed the ’94 DeVille.
I was only 2 seconds slower than the Stangs – in a 4500 lb limo!
I might even have shaved another second if I had used the parking brake to swing the rear around the hairpin.
08-17-2007, 01:53 PM
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I challenge Ford to let Mazda build the Kabura as a 2-seater & stick that sweet little quad cam 4.6 in it.
They could even stick the T-bird brand on it.
That would be amazing.. A T-bird with REAL THUNDER.
They could even stick the T-bird brand on it.
That would be amazing.. A T-bird with REAL THUNDER.
08-17-2007, 02:07 PM
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Ha. The last Thunderbird motor was a joke.. Trust me, I have it in my LS. Dont get me wrong, decent & powerful motor, but just too many problems. Atleast the 00-02 LS Motor. The later versions werent as bad I guess, a little more power and stability.
08-17-2007, 03:15 PM
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dear OP.
do a little research on power indices. here's 2 to start you off: banzhoff power index, shapely-shubic power index.
check it out. having veto power makes any one 1 person/corp a very powerful player. especially when all the other players have no where near the shares ford owns. interesting stuff to be sure.
btw, as far as i know, if a company buys 5% of a rival company its called a hostile takeover. multiply that by 6x.
do a little research on power indices. here's 2 to start you off: banzhoff power index, shapely-shubic power index.
check it out. having veto power makes any one 1 person/corp a very powerful player. especially when all the other players have no where near the shares ford owns. interesting stuff to be sure.
btw, as far as i know, if a company buys 5% of a rival company its called a hostile takeover. multiply that by 6x.