If the RX-8 came with a 300hp V6 would you be happy or sad?
05-22-2006, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Fanman
No I wouldn't be too happy. They got a RX8 test mule to 255 hp with the Renesis, can't see why it can't be done. Or either turbo it, or 3 rotor it and call it day. Why 300 hp V6 ? If you are going to butcher the car, they already have RX7's with LS1's in them, so why not a lightweight V8 then ? But the Renesis can be improved on. Just needs some work on it.
05-22-2006, 03:50 PM
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fuel prices need to go down for me to be completely happy with the 8. otherwise, my $45 dollars to fill up every 200+ miles hurts my wallet bigtime.
I would want more torque, better economy, power that's close to the 250hp figures originally anounced. then i'd be happy. so far this car's been bulletproof in terms of reliability. It sucks less oil at 15k miles.
I would want more torque, better economy, power that's close to the 250hp figures originally anounced. then i'd be happy. so far this car's been bulletproof in terms of reliability. It sucks less oil at 15k miles.
05-22-2006, 03:52 PM
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since when was a renesis a lightweight it is compact but in terms of weight i don't know, the thing has a lot of cast iron in it. I'm sure there are aluminum blocked V6s making 300 hp that weigh in similarly to the renesis (albeit with a higher center of gravity)
05-22-2006, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jayk
From what I've heard in the rx-7 world a 3-rotor can actually be heavier than a comparably powered (lightweight) v8 and with the extra rotor no longer as compact and easy to position as a 2 rotor renesis. Point being that a 3-rotor isn't guaranteed to be better than a 300hp v-6. If you add on all the extra weight of turbos, intercoolers, and all the plumbing you also lose at least part of the advantage of a NA renesis. I love rotaries, but there seems to be no real way to win with them... They're either small, compact, underpowered, and reliable - or large, hugely complex , respectably powered, and unreliable.
05-22-2006, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueRenesis82
you know you can get a 3 rotor n/a right?
EDIT - Actually I see the confusion in my original post now. I meant to point out that whether you go the 3-rotor route, or the turbo route, you add on complexity and weight to the engine so you no longer have the benefit of the original renesis.
05-22-2006, 04:33 PM
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Besides gas mileage, what advantages do you have with that?
Originally Posted by BlueRenesis82
so you would want basically the same engine if you went with the s2k swap? whats the point? 
See above.
05-22-2006, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jayk
Yeah... Read my post again... With the 3rd rotor the engine is no longer lightweight (if it ever was) and it is no longer compact.
EDIT - Actually I see the confusion in my original post now. I meant to point out that whether you go the 3-rotor route, or the turbo route, you add on complexity and weight to the engine so you no longer have the benefit of the original renesis.
EDIT - Actually I see the confusion in my original post now. I meant to point out that whether you go the 3-rotor route, or the turbo route, you add on complexity and weight to the engine so you no longer have the benefit of the original renesis.
05-22-2006, 06:41 PM
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In answer to the original post.... NO WAY!!! I bought this car because of the Rotary Engine
A great example of a 20b and its balance is the RE Amemyia Asparadrink RX7 race car. Thats naturally aspirated and dam fast!
A great example of a 20b and its balance is the RE Amemyia Asparadrink RX7 race car. Thats naturally aspirated and dam fast!
05-22-2006, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LionZoo
Yeah, or so they say. I call BS. You don't want 50/50 on acceleration, you want more rear weight bias during acceleration to get better traction for better acceleration. 50/50 is great because in the midcorner when you're basically coasting, you can adjust your line much easier. Having said that though, a bit more rear bias is actually preferable for a track car in most conditions since acceleration out of corners is so important.
By the way, a RX without a rotary is not a RX.
By the way, a RX without a rotary is not a RX.
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