If the RX-8 came with a 300hp V6 would you be happy or sad?
05-21-2006, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by yiksing
Why wouldn't it be similar, you lose the 50/50 and get close to the Z's 53/47 weight distribution. You gain overall weight close to the Z. What makes you think the 8 has better suspension than the Z, both uses double wishbone and multi-link, only difference is spring and damper rates, wheelbase width and length. It only shows one performs better on track and one more forgiving on the street. I don't recall ever saying they are the same, do you even understand the word "similar", big deal with your 4 seat vs 2 seat, I could just easily rephrased it similar to a G35 which is the SIMILAR thing as the Z.
Okay, fine, they'll be 'similar'. Congrats on winning the unrealistic argument!
05-21-2006, 02:07 AM
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I see where the point of confusion is now, I was thinking building the 8 from scratch with the V6 in mind. Others were thinking having a V6 in the 8's chassis.
05-21-2006, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue87Sport
It's more than just weight distribution. The rotary engine enables a low center of gravity and low polar moment of inertia.
From http://www.autozine.org/html/Mazda/RX8.html: "Low center of gravity, low polar moment of inertia and perfect weight distribution are what all sports car engineers dream for, but not many cars can achieve them. For example, Nissan 350Z with its big V6 engine achieves only 53:47 and a much higher polar moment of inertia because a portion of its V6 hangs over the front axle. Benefited by the weight and size advantage of Wankel engine, Mazda RX-8 can easily beat its opposition even though it is a 4-seater. Chassis engineers will love this car."
From http://www.autozine.org/html/Mazda/RX8.html: "Low center of gravity, low polar moment of inertia and perfect weight distribution are what all sports car engineers dream for, but not many cars can achieve them. For example, Nissan 350Z with its big V6 engine achieves only 53:47 and a much higher polar moment of inertia because a portion of its V6 hangs over the front axle. Benefited by the weight and size advantage of Wankel engine, Mazda RX-8 can easily beat its opposition even though it is a 4-seater. Chassis engineers will love this car."
05-21-2006, 03:07 AM
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The only reason I bought my RX-8 was the rotary engine. I previously had an RX-2, RX-4, and 3 RX-7s. It had been about 13 years since I had one. The rotary engine is a unique experience!
05-22-2006, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by yiksing
Its not that the Nissan engineers can't make it a 50:50 weight distribution in the Z, they intentionally make it 53:47 so they could get close to 50:50 on acceleration. Go watch BMI Vol. 6.
By the way, a RX without a rotary is not a RX.
05-22-2006, 07:06 AM
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If the Rx-8 had a V6 , it would be called a MX-8. Most of all of Mazdas coupe's V6's got the designation of MX-?. ex: MX-3,MX-6, etc.
Without the rotary it just wouldn't be the same....
Without the rotary it just wouldn't be the same....
05-22-2006, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dmp
Hell yeah. In fact, I'd LOVE an MX8 with the MS6 Engine providing motivation. 
Some day I may swap in an LS2 or, hell, even an S2K engine.
Some day I may swap in an LS2 or, hell, even an S2K engine.
If you're gunna swap...go all out and get the LS7
05-22-2006, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
Hell yeah. In fact, I'd LOVE an MX8 with the MS6 Engine providing motivation.
Some day I may swap in an LS2 or, hell, even an S2K engine.
Some day I may swap in an LS2 or, hell, even an S2K engine.
05-22-2006, 01:12 PM
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No I wouldn't be too happy. They got a RX8 test mule to 255 hp with the Renesis, can't see why it can't be done. Or either turbo it, or 3 rotor it and call it day. Why 300 hp V6 ? If you are going to butcher the car, they already have RX7's with LS1's in them, so why not a lightweight V8 then ? But the Renesis can be improved on. Just needs some work on it.
05-22-2006, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Fanman
But the Renesis can be improved on. Just needs some work on it.
.....anyways i like my RXocho the way it is... 
05-22-2006, 03:22 PM
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same as most others, if it would have come with a V6 I would have went and bought a 350Z
My car tickles me every day from the fact that is more unique then 99% of other cars on the road today.
My car tickles me every day from the fact that is more unique then 99% of other cars on the road today.