TJRX8

I still have my old car because the dealer had no incentive to give me a fair trade since I preordered months before.

All of my scenarios are speculation and I really hope everyone makes out for what is best for them.

As for the "scheduled" maintenance, what exactly is "scheduled" that they will pay for? The way I read the manual (based on sched #2) you will be getting:

10 oil changes
1 air filter replaced
1 set of spark plugs replaced
1 replacement of; brake, trans and diff fluids
(surprised there was no mention of tire rotation)

How much is this worth? I'm not questioning your decision to keep the car just how much do we all think this will be worth. I guess we will know more when the official announcement comes out. The next few weeks could get interesting.

Hercules

But I *am* an elitist snob.

*grin*

RX-8 Zoomster

Yes. Happy enough not to return my car. I agree with some others that the free schedule maintenance and $500 is icing on the cake for me.

Maybe. Only to some enthusiasts. I don't think the common consumer who will be shopping this car for the looks, functionality, and existing performance will care.


Again, I don't think it will be a PR disaster. Mazda has revised this before the wide-scale release of this car to the market. Remember most dealers will not be fully stocked with RX-8's to sell till October or November, the normal release dates for this model year. I think Mazda has caught this in time.

Maybe. If the car sells as projected, then only Mazda will determine it's future, not the market. Worst case, if this ends the production of RX-8 & the demise of the rotary once again, I have a "limited edition" vehicle which would be more marketable then before.

Yes, because I feel there wasn't a "cover-up" or blatant mistake. I believe Mazda had to detune the engine to meet US emissions, they revised their ratings because of it. I applaude them for that. If emissions was a factor, that wasn't their faut. Blame the US emissions.

Don't know yet. Besides if it is still performing similiar 0-60 times, what difference does the rwhp state. I bought the car for the perfomance, not the HP rating. Worst case, if the performance is slightly down, this car is still fast enough for me.

Why would they? Hypothetical and highly unlikely. I believe the now revised HP is correct because of the detuned ECU being used to meet the emissions.

Still to be determined. As I stated above, most consumers will not care about the stated HP. If the car sells, I see no problem. Then only Mazda will determine its future fate (production run, new RX-8 models, RX-7, other rotaries).

I'm happy that they corrected their marketing and made ammends to those that already own the vehicle. It IS fun to drive (according to my wife). That is why people are satisfied with Mazda for the ammends and are keeping the car. Not surprising to me.

I understand what Hercules and Bootwana are saying. First off we have opinions of those that have never driven the vehicle. Sure their opinions are welcomed, but to flame the performance of the car just because of a HP number is unfounded. Although I think Hercules was a little strong in his last statement, I understand what he was trying to say. If one is happy with the performance of the car before the revised HP rating, then one wouldn't be thinking of turning it in. If they didn't enjoy driving it then, it gives them the fortunate option of opting out of owning it. Now for those like my friend TJRX8 that was perfectly happy with the performance before this HP revision and Mazda giving him an option of buying it back so he can turn around and buy it again, then I say - greedy "bastage".

Quick_lude

I'm just curious, why do you proclaim this "excellent and more than fair Mazda offer" as if it is a fact? Who made that decision? Judging from reading tonight there is a fair number of current and prospective owners like me that do NOT think this offer is "excellent and more than fair" Yes, horsepower is not everything but it is an important part of a sports performance car. I don't think that a 15 sec $38,000 car without leather interior is a fair price considering the competition. I already drive a 15 sec car that with a $1700 Cnd Tein coilover suspension probably outhandles the rx-8 right now, except for the rwd vs fwd dynamics. So yes for some here that are planning to upgrade from a Civic/Accord/etc the handling improvement will be enormous and they will/are happy with it. Others like me already have very good handling.. so that factor will not overshadow the hp deficiency for me.

I'm not saying that the 8 is off the list for me now considering this latest development but unlike some people here that cannot be objective about the situation because of their passion for the car, I need to be, because it's my very hard earned money and I would like to get full value for it.

BillK

If a HP number is THAT important to you, DON'T BUY ONE.

Really, it's quite simple. Either take it off the table because you know it has 237 HP or go ahead and buy it because it's fun and nothing revs like a rotary.

Mazda is offering people who've bought one a FULL REFUND - you could have racked up 6000 miles by now, it won't make a difference.

I don't see how you could possibly BE any fairer as a manufacturer than that: "Satisfaction guaranteed or your money back."

jtimbck2

Wow, that sums up my feelings EXACTLY! I have a feeling that a lot of the people whose first kneejerk reaction to the hp re-rating was "Those b**tards!!! There's no way I'm keeping this car those crooks sold me, I'll stick it to them!" will, after they've calmed down a little, get in their RX-8's, go out for a drive, then remember why they bought the car in the first place: the styling, the rotary engine, and most of all, the fun-to-drive factor. They didn't *really* buy it based on the 247hp number on paper.

Wing

Well I thought about this.

I paid $43,000 cdn after taxes for this car.

The only other car that was REALLY on my list was the Acura TSX.

I have heard the best price for that car would be $39,000 out the door taxes and all, I might not get that, but let's assume.

So differences in the car, well....

The TSX would have Leather..... good or bad, not sure, more luxury for sure.


Ummm, the TSX also has climate control, which is cool and a moonroof.

The gas mileage isn't really all that much better on the TSX according to the EPA ratings.

So for 4K I get a MUCH cooler looking car that I LOVE. And I get FREE maintenance!

$4k is a lot of money I suppose but the TSX is NOT an RX8, I never use the backseats, really I just wanted a sports car with a TRUNK! And I got one. I really would have bought a miata or something but only having 1 car that would be a real problem.

I think I'll keep her and apply some more wax now

Sputnik

Duplicate thread, closing...

---jps