RIWWP

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It varies dealer to dealer.

Some require receipts from a 3rd party, some will take anything, some won't even ask...

Legally, all you have to provide is a "record". The more stable / solid it is though, the less chance they will challenge it.

Urgedtaylor

So if I bought my 8 privately and they did not provide me with records of service I'm out of luck? That's to bad because my compression is bad and I need a new cat converter.

RIWWP

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If you are within 80,000 miles, your cat is covered under the federal warranty (assuming you are in the US), no records needed for that. If you are above 80,000 miles, no service paperwork will get the cat covered.

As for the engine, it's always possible that the prior service for that car was done at a dealer, and it might be in Mazda's system already. It's worth a shot checking. If not, they yeah, you will be entirely on the whim of the dealer on if they cover your engine or not.

23109VC

why are 09-10 models not included in this warranty? is there anything different about those motors that makes them more reliable, and less likely to fail?

i'm shopping used RX8s... I like the newer R3s... but woudl I be better off finding a low mileage used 08... and wind up with a "free" extended warranty? or is any buyer really better off in a newer 09-10 model????

Lane03

According to Mazda, AutoWeek, and Car&Driver, the '09s are included as well. See attached.

EDIT: However, to answer your question - Yes, there were many improvements made to the Series II (2009+). See this thread for more info.

danielk015

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Might be a silly question, but I am nearing the 8 year 100K mark and (knock on wood), my car seems to be running fine.. Should I get a vacuum check at the dealer just in case?

SilverEIGHT

Not a silly question and I would strongly advise you have it checked out. Over time, you get acclimated to the power or loss of and you may not be aware of it. I had an engine replaced at 97K.

danielk015

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^ Thanks silvereight. I just crossed 90K on the Odo and the 8 year mark is coming up in Jan. I'll definitely take the advice and get it checked this summer.

AnotherRX8Chick

If it ain't broke don't mess with it!
I have 150,000 on original engine (knock on wood) but I am hoping to have 300,000 as evry part has been replaced either due to recalls or problems since day 1, it's a 2004.

pianoman-1

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So I just got my car back from having the engine replaced and there is much noise coming from the shifter area. They had me wait another 4 hours while they drained the tranny, checked everthing for tightness, and refilled. I would think it is more likely right in the shifter area. Maybe they tore the boot? Forgot a bushing or something. Would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.

viprez586

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I was past my powertrain warranty and I didn't have to pay for anything.
Dealers get you to buy that stuff so it makes the dealership money.
Complain and you will get everything for free. Don't be a dick, justify your statements.

For example: Coolant.
They should replace coolant for free because: you have to drain all of it anyway, and Mazda would shove that warranty claim up their *** if they put old coolant in it that lead to an engine failure.
Furthermore, how can Mazda "guarantee" their new engine if old coolant is used.
Can you reuse your coolant? Sure can. But why when it's so easy to put new coolant in to ensure a proper mixture.

Some dealers will not charge you for anything - to keep a good customer service score, prevent the argument, or just for goodwill(if your a good repeat customer). It all depends on the dealer.


It could be a thousand different things. More then likely the tech forgot something. It's a bigger job, so keep that in mind.

RIWWP

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I think you missed the message of what I said. If you read the warranty, it only covers the engine itself (and labor associated with the change). So that means that other items that HAVE to be changed (like oil, coolant, etc...) are probably going to be charged to the owner. But only probably. I recognize that the dealer may not charge it. But most do. It simply isn't covered by the warranty, and the dealer may opt to pick it up in the name of customer service.

I never suggested that they would re-use coolant

People that are looking to take advantage of the warranty should be prepared to spend that money, and possibly be pleasantly surprised if they don't have to. They shouldn't go into it expecting it to be entirely free, because it usually isn't.

pianoman-1

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Also...stinks really bad of grease in the cabin.

mljhn

I am out of the power train warrenty but the core was replaced free of charge. I had them replace the engine mounts but that was the only thing extra I had to pay for. It appears that it depends on the dealership, for what ever reason.

pianoman-1

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It did turn out that I had a torn shifter boot. They did the repair (at no charge) and everything seems to be great. Taking it easy on the engine for awhile as I have read in the forums.
Also, from what I have read about the engine replacements I guess I was lucky that they did not charge me anything for fluids, etc. I did have them replace the plugs, wires, coils, and that potentially dangerous fuel line. Told them to inspect motor mounts and replace if needed. I do have a little vibration at idle when air is on. They did not replace. Now I almost wish they would've. Oh well. It's not that bad. Right now...

Queef Latifah

Just dropped off my 04 rx8 at a local dealer here in Woodside. Bought it a month ago --fed it premium gas, checked oil levels every week, tire pressure and so on...then took it a mechanic because the engine died while driving and the crank started taking forever..it even refused to start after a fill up at the gas station. Mech says the probs are due to low compression so hopefully the extended warranty covers this or else I'll have to pay 500 bucks just for a diag and compression test without anything actually being fixed. I'd hate to have to sell this car.

jwh

My son's car overheated... now coolant everywhere in the engine. No idea if it will be covered. Any key words or descriptions I should use to help? I'm not going to lie to the guy, but all these things seem related.

josh95mx

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I have an 05' had it since new ran great until it flooded the first time at about 90Km, before they extended the warranty to 100K. Then got her going again. ran great for another 10-15K then came the onset of issues. I was already over the 100K

Now the car sits, engine is gone completely at 126K, dealer is offering me a core at wholesale for 2K plus core and tax. But who has 2K laying around... save save until i can get it going. Still going to cost me about 3K with tax and other little odds and ends.

what gets me are some of the yards selling used unknown condition engines for more than the dealer is charging for a short block. and for 5K I can buy a straight up built motor with ceramic seals and tighter clearances than Mazda's reman cores.

that LS1 swap is looking very appealing about now, as much as I am against it.

RX8sold4EVO

This whole topic is another reason I sold my RX8 before it accumulated too many miles. This engine seems to be prone to problems in large numbers, some people may have no problems but the majority seem to have trouble eventually. My 1987 RX7 however was incredibly reliable, never broke down even past 115,000 miles. I sold it in great shape and I bet its still on the road today. For some reason the RX8 has been plagued with problems. Even Mazda acknowledges this by extending the warranty. This car is a good chasis in search of a good engine.

2008-RX8

I have a 2008 Rx-8, and my mazda dealer asked me on monday if i had any engine problems, only thing that i had problems with was the flooding of the engine, so i took it in today for them to hook it up to the computer and test my engine, well needless to say, i was losing pressure in my engine, and mazda is replacing my engine, it is already in route to my mazda dealership.so in my opinion anyone that owns the 2004-2008 model of the RX8 i would highly recommend you take it in and have it tested, i would have never of known about the engine issue if my dealer had not asked me.

I drive naked

This deters me from wanting to own an RX8...

I love everything else about the cars, but the engine issues worry me.

2008-RX8

and also found out that my motor mounts were bad and 2 of my ignition coils were bad as well, but the dealership informed me those were not covered under the warranty. so i have to replace them on my own. but who is to say that with the engine failure that they did not burn my ignition coils out?

2008-RX8

please dont let it deter you from the rx8, its a wonderful car, that just had an engine flaw, mazda is doing the right thing in replacing it with a new engine at no cost to the customer. ive had it 3 yrs and never ever had any issues till the past year, and all that was due to a flawed engine. its man made so im sure there is bound to be flaws that have to be worked out.

abrankhalid

Guys i am at my wits end. I have searched and read through almost everything that is relevant but haven't come up with any satisfactory answer. The story is that my 04 RX8 had its engine replaced at 35,000 miles in 2006. And guess what happened as soon as i crossed over 104,00 ? the car isn't dead yet and still drivable but there is certainly a loss compression. Its certainly on its way out. The dealership agrees that the parts that are messing are covered under the 100.000 mile warranty but not on this car !
they say that since the car is over the 100,000 mark, its out of warranty. And as you can see, i have been claiming that since the engine has 70.000 miles on it, they should still cover it. My maintenance has been immaculate and i kept on top of everything.

any ideas ? any reasoning i might try with them ? Should i go tell the manager, godfather style, that as a reasonable man, he should agree ? or am just plain out of luck ?

Help would be greatly appreciated.

First post !

bse50

Did they record your "complaints" over the last 70.000miles? Were the complains followed by some proof like a compression test?
If the answer is yes to one of the above then you may try to contact MNAO and file a complain.
If all you did was bitch with the stealership without anything written on paper then you're out of luck, you may still try but it will mostly be a waste of time.