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Old 05-21-2020, 06:33 PM
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Yeah this is a rew swap kinda figured that wouldn't fit once I looked it up. Mad max the force feed fits the rew block in the Rx8 chassis?

No, they make one for the REW too, it’s just a bit different. They’re are a lot of other options for the REW though, but not on the Reni. Here is the REW version, but I’m not sure if it fits on the RX8 chassis:





pretty sure the one on Max’s engine has a port, just not seeing it at that angle or they may offer it as an option.

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The -10 outlet goes to filter then oil coolers

the chips one might not fit on rew in rx8
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yeah, you might be right about that. I forgot the clearance is an issue. It doesn’t seem that tall though.

so the question is, will the Renesis oil filter pedestal that he modified fit then?

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Originally Posted by F***APiston
Yeah this is a rew swap kinda figured that wouldn't fit once I looked it up. Mad max the force feed fits the rew block in the Rx8 chassis?
I used Forcefed part as well, I think there is a pic in my build thread, if not PM me and I'll send you one. Don't think they advertise it on their website or anything, I just emailed them and got it. Oil flow should basically replicate stock REW even with the single port adapter. My memory is foggy on this but something like this: oil flow through coolers, to filter, to adaptor where it then splits to bearings and sump. Don't forget to plug rear turbo drain on passenger side for the stock twin turbo.

Edit: here are before and after photos of mine, oil will just split at the engine block.



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From my knowledge and research I've done it will fit as long as you port match the hole and it's the easiest because it bolts right up and can run oil lines like factory but I will do some more research and take a look at the parts you guys recommended. Thanks for all the input and help. Update coming soon got a lot of parts in just waiting on oil pan to show up the engine should be going in.
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From my knowledge and research I've done it will fit as long as you port match the hole and it's the easiest because it bolts right up and can run oil lines like factory but I will do some more research and take a look at the parts you guys recommended. Thanks for all the input and help. Update coming soon got a lot of parts in just waiting on oil pan to show up the engine should be going in.
The problem is you'll never reach the oil filter there in that location. The REW sits too tight to the firewall and the intake elbow will be right over top of it. Make life easier for yourself and relocate oil filter. Just my 2 cents.
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yeah, the thing I see missing is that you have to remote mount a filter regardless and rather than reuse the RX8 filter mount with an adapter cap as per the thread below you just get rid of all that and go straight to a remote adapter mount instead

https://www.rx8club.com/rotary-swaps...nstall-257641/


in this thread it seemed to me that Banzai didn’t recognize that the pedestal adapter (the same one Max posted here) connects the two ports together. You don’t have to separate them the OE way, because that way sends unfiltered oil back to the regulator/oil pan.

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Riley's REW Swap continued

Received my oil pan today from nicon rotary also received turbo water pump housing and pump and lots of other parts. engine can finally start going together in the next couple weeks and will be in the car soon to start test fitting everything I have. A few things I have got done nothing big as I have been just collecting parts and waiting. Port matched the oil pedestal made gasket for that as well. Will still most likely switch to remote filter but not my major concern at the moment will figure that out when the time comes also drilled and tapped turbo for 1/8 npt fitting for a boost reference point to wastegate. The Nikon rotary oil pan uses the RX8 oil pick up tube made that fit on with adapter plate also made gasket. More to come very soon very excited to finally see it coming together and the engine in the car. Thanks. Oh also any one know where I can find this dust cover part (first picture). Had an old one from the other engine but got damaged.








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You made the adapter plate or did you buy it from somewhere? I noticed the rx8 oil pickup tube does not line up with the REW and I would like to retain the rx8 pickup as it's low profile. I took the metal spacers out of the rx8 pickup and it will line up just barely but not perfectly. If you made this, please walk me through your thought process is please.




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My adapter plate came with my oil pan from Nicon rotary. I modified mine slightly to make it fit better in my opinion. You probably can buy one from Nicon rotary. Wouldn't be hard to make though. Mine is only about 1 to 1.5 inches thick and would involve drilling three holes in some aluminum and cutting it out. Use the rew factory tube as template. Also you do need to punch out the metal bushing/spacer on the I Rx8 pick up tube for it to fit. Also spacing may be different for factory rew oil pan mine is what is needed for the aftermarket oil pan.
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I use the Banzai low profile oil pan, they provide the hardware to mount the rx8 pickup tube onto the REW front iron plate. Should be just two studs, 2 washers, and 2 nuts. I was able to leave the factory rx8 pickup tube alone. Not sure why yours is fitting so weird.....
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would’ve preferred taking a die grinder and slotting the holes in the metal bushings rather than removing them entirely.

apparently Banzai discontinued that oil pan ...


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Originally Posted by strokercharged95gt
I use the Banzai low profile oil pan, they provide the hardware to mount the rx8 pickup tube onto the REW front iron plate. Should be just two studs, 2 washers, and 2 nuts. I was able to leave the factory rx8 pickup tube alone. Not sure why yours is fitting so weird.....
Same for me.

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would’ve preferred taking a die grinder and slotting the holes in the metal bushings rather than removing them entirely.

apparently Banzai discontinued that oil pan ...


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And yes it's no longer available on their website unfortunately.
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Engine just about ready to be put in. Installed Rx8 oil level sensor, sealed and mounted oil pan. Engine mount was put and manifold was installed again after have to remove it for the v band to be welded on the waste gate dump. Will be putting engine in tomorrow and will install waste gate, turbo and down pipe for test fit will also possibly install water pump and pulleys.



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Had to take a quick picture. Turbo looks so good.
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Riley's REW Swap continued

Engine is in. Test fitting everything. Very happy finally feeling like things are coming together. Have a few clearance issues but overall everything seems like a good fit. Issues with oil drain plug will move that to the other side as it is hitting the manifold. Also return to the water pump where the lower radiator hose goes on is hitting steering rack. Turbo fits fine as does the down pipe and waste gate. Put on FFE idler pulley but that's right in front of the turbo inlet. Would like to keep it on but obviously that isn't going to work so is water pump pulley contact an issue. Put the the Rx8 oil pedestal seems like it would fit but we will see once the intake is on. Also got a inspection plate cleaned it up and primed it. Painting it in black high temp paint as it sits close to manifold and waste gate. Just going to collect more parts for now still need intake manifold, fuel system, flywheel, pressure plate, clutch, oil coolers and everything for plumbing and wiring. Thanks.












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Water pump inlet can just be cut off, flipped 180deg and welded back on to clear the steering rack. See post #113 on my thread for photos. https://www.rx8club.com/rotary-swaps...-270137/page5/
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Sweet thanks man. was thinking that I would end up cutting it and making it fit but glad to hear that it works. thanks mate.
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I got the xcessive lower intake manifold and the ffe primary fuel rail. I have a question about the fuel system. I am looking for 300-400 hp for this build probably right around 350 to the wheels would be perfect. Planned on getting 850 primary injectors. My question is about the secondary fuel set up on the xcessive lim there are four ports for secondary injectors is it beneficial to use all four injector ports at like a 1650 sized injector with ffe four port injector rail meant for the xcessive lim or block off the middle two ports (block off kit included with the manifold) and just run the two injectors like factory at let's say a 1750 or 1800 injectors with ffe two port secondary rail. Sizing wise is that right on or a little overkill is fine with me hopefully would bring injector duty cycle down. One more thing is pump size would a Walbro 255 be good for that would like to keep an intank pump and run with FPR or should I go up on fuel pump size Walbro 450 or do you guys have a recommended pump thanks a lot for any input hope all is well.
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A 255 would be a little small... there are some nice new brushless pumps by TI

Personally I would pick injectors to use 2 Primary and 2 Sec injectors and then if I decided to upgrade I would add the 2 in the Pri runners on the Xcessive manifold

If you have the funds buy good injectors.... New Bosch type like the ID ones work well and have good spray patterns compared to the older style injectors

What are you using for an ECU? That will determine what you can do with injectors as well...
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Ecu going to use the adaptronic modular for the Rx8 seems like the best option. Okay so two primary and two secondary injectors sizing 850 primarys and 1750 secondarys seems like a good size. Great thanks I will check out the ti brushless pumps. Yes definitely planned on getting good injectors the injector dynamics or Bosch ev14 injectors definitely willing to spend the money for high-quality products for this swap. Thanks for your input man.
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I thought the Rx8 Lim didn't fit for a rew swap. I'm assuming the s2 manifold is about the same as the s1 Rx8 manifold size wise. I already have the xcessive manifold so no point in trying to change now but just curious does the Rx8 lim fit my knowledge and research was that it would not work with rew
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... or switch to an S2 LIM which only has two additional injectors to the two primary, and also sensors to detect if the APV is open or closed.

The S2 engine is fairly fubar, but not on those points.

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On a REW?
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sorry about that, forgot which forum section I was posting in and went FullTard
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