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Old 06-25-2014, 03:06 PM
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you are so lucky! idk what to do
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how do i post a picture on right?
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I haven't posted in a while as to my status, but as an update I have done both of the memory resets with no change in startability. In retrospect, I wonder if the decarb could've caused more harm than good. The seafoam was allowed to soak for about 1.5 to 2 hours as opposed to the recommended 1. Is it possible that the carbon cleaned by the seafoam reformed somewhere else before burning it off causing significant compression loss one or more faces rather than increasing compression?

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i asked around and i can get an engine with 66k on it for $1,900
but i dont know how much labor would be and at this point im almost out of
money. i want to sell it instead but i fell like i wont even get $6,000 for the car is so
clean like 10/10 interior, 10/10 body is just this damn problem! even if i would get like $5,000 for it i would probably sell it.

I wouldn't put in a used engine with 66K miles unless it had good compression numbers.

You would likely have a difficult time even getting 5K for it with a blown engine

Where do you live?
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Im in central texas. And the vin report can be handled at your service department, simply give them your vin (its on the windshield and door jam) and they will print a report. As for the compression issue fuel delivery would not affect that ajd if there was an issue there it would more than likely be fuel starved at high rpm so the fact you can get it up that high is interesting if it were fuel. Now of your coils are bad those are an easy fix but we still gotta see that compression test.

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Old 06-26-2014, 10:41 AM
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have you heard of anybody who has put a used engine and worked fine I mean here where im from we have companies that sell engines with 3 year warranty on them so I don't know if I should or not? and I live in pleasant hill close to san Francisco.
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okay I will take it in today and see what they say about the report.
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okay guys so I don't know how to upload a picture on here but im just going to write it down.
Kpa Rotor 1 Rotor 2
1 0 Kpa 3.1 Kpa
2 0 Kpa 3.4 Kpa
3 0 kpa 3.1 Kpa
rpm 270 rpm 270 rpm


that's one chart
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this is the chart that is next to it

Rotor 1 Rotor 2 Acceptable levels
1 No good No good 830 Standard
2 No good No good 680 Minimum
3 No good No good 150 Diff/chamber
Diff/chambers good good 100 Diff/rotors
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this is the second part

Kgf/cm2 Rotor 1 Rotor 2
1 0 Kgf/cm2 3.1 Kgf/cm2
2 0 Kgf/cm2 3.4 Kgf/cm2
3 0 Kgf/cm2 3.1 Kgf/cm2
rpm 270 rpm 270 rpm



Rotor 1 Rotor 2
1 No good No good 8.5 Standard
2 No good No good 6.9 Minimum
3 No good No good 1.5 Diff/chamber
Diff/chambers good good 1 Diff/rotors
Diff/rotor
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and the third part

psi Rotor 1 Rotor 2
1 0 psi 3.1 psi
2 0 psi 3.4 psi
3 0 psi 3.1 psi
rpm 270 rpm 270 rpm




Rotor 1 Rotor 2
1 No good No good 120 Standard
2 No good No good 98.6 Minimum
3 No good No good 21.8 Diff/chamber
Diff/chambers good good 14.5 Diff/rotors
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thanks for the help everyone I really appreciate it!
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Originally Posted by Montoyarx8
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have you heard of anybody who has put a used engine and worked fine I mean here where im from we have companies that sell engines with 3 year warranty on them so I don't know if I should or not? and I live in pleasant hill close to san Francisco.

I put in a used engine with about 8K miles in mine with no issues

I just would be more cautious about one with 66K that's all. It could be a good engine...but the compression is the thing
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The reason you have no loss of power at redline is because Wankel engines generate more compression at higher rpms. That is why the dealer lists the rpms in the test. The numbers are typically normalized to 250 rpms. The engine will actually run with no apex seals at redline.
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