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Old 08-10-2015, 09:48 PM   #1
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Just installed an Optima Yellow Top

After my recent battery drain incident, it sort of felt like the car wasn't cranking like it should have on a cold start. Long story short, it quickly became clear that the original battery was at end-of-life.

I picked the Yellow Top because the car likes to leave its radiator fans on after shutdown when hot. I figured some deep cycle capability wouldn't suck.

Holy crap does the car start faster now. Must be cranking at... a lot more RPM. The sound is so much higher in pitch that it honestly slightly scares me. Of course, I haven't spent enough time around Series 2s to know what they're supposed to sound like with a completely fresh battery.

Friend of mine thinks I've made a horrible call with the Yellow Top. Apparently Optima has seen some quality issues in the past several years, and Yellow Tops in particular have been failing more frequently. Most of the stories I've found have been about trail Jeeps and huge amounts of in-car audio, though, so maybe that's why.

Anyone have any thoughts? I might still be able to return the battery if I've made a mistake!
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I love my optima red top. No problems in the past nine months
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I purchased a Bosch AGM battery and I had the same result, spins the starter like crazy and starts up immediately.
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I went thru two Optimas and two years (replaced under warranty but still a hassle), my father had the same experience (on a truck and a Jeep). They suck in terms of reliability. They were once great but apparently they were sold a couple of years back and have not been the same since. I am on a few Jeep forums as well and the Optimas are one of the most hated batteries. I have had an Odyssey (PC925) in my RX-8 for the past couple of years without issue and it saved me some weight so win win.


My father went with Die Hard AGM's a couple of years ago and loves them (he winches a lot) but they are $$$.

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I went thru two Optimas and two years (replaced under warranty but still a hassle), my father had the same experience (on a truck and a Jeep). They suck in terms of reliability.
Yellows or Reds?

Normal-person usage, or lots of engine-off electrical usage?


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I have had an Odyssey (PC925) in my RX-8 for the past couple of years without issue and it saved me some weight so win win.
How well do those take a deep cycle? Do you use a battery tender when you're not driving it?
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Yellows or Reds?

Normal-person usage, or lots of engine-off electrical usage?

How well do those take a deep cycle? Do you use a battery tender when you're not driving it?
For me it was normal daily usage with the Yellow top years back and then two red tops. For my dad it was daily/trail rig duty in his Jeeps with some winching, some trail lighst occasionally, etc. But nothing crazy.

On my Odyssey I do keep it on a tender because my car is not a daily any longer. I do have and auxiliary water pump, various switches, etc.. My Odyssey is also relocated to the trunk which IMO greatly helps with longevity.

I also had a couple of Duralast Gold batteries from Autozone that did pretty good. In South Texas you are lucky if you reach four years on a battery.



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the yellow top is the best choice you can make. just make sure to replace it after 5 - 10 years, whatever past what the warrantee covers.
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Optimas suck.
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I have a Wrangler I drive in the winters. It has an optima red top I bought in 2009. I am still using it today, and have never had an issue. The JEEP will sit April-November every year without a start and it always starts up first try in November. Suppose I have a good one.
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Yeah you got a good one for sure. I mean mine were replaced under warranty, it was just annoying.

This guy heard a loud pop in his garage and came out to this.


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I had several older Red Tops with no issue,
Then 1 new one that got warranted several times (RX7). I finally put in a small Odyssey. It was great for the application. Small, light cheap, and fast starting.

I also had one older Yellow Top and it was excellent. I really liked being able to deep-cycle it. Even after 6weeks of no use, it would be a bit flat, but would still start the car (high-compression 402ci in a Vette) and charge normally. Pretty cool.

I am a fan of spending a bit more $$ on a deep-cycle battery but not sure that Optima is the way to go any more. Too many stories.
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Well, almost 2 years in, the Yellow Top hasn't failed yet. It does seem weaker than when it was fresh though, if the sound of the starter motor is any indication. Hope that isn't a sign of things to come.

Not sure but I think this battery also has a much lower capacity than the stocker -- something like 48 Ah, whereas the stocker is 60-80 IIRC.

Even if this thing lasts several more years, I'm going to chalk this whole experience up to having failed to do even a moment's research. Lesson learned.

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I've had my red top for close to 5 years and no problems. Have gone without starting the engine for a month and it started right up.
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guess i am in that catagory. yellowtop for ~10 years.. then is failed. took a chance on a red top..

hope it goes well..

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I mean, 10 years is a long time for an underhood battery. And for a while it was quite common for Optimas to last that long.

When yours failed, was it sudden or gradual?

There seems to be a general feeling that Optima's quality started slipping at some point in the mid-2000s and isn't known to have come back yet. Optima strenuously denies this, of course. They blame hard use for the failures. I'm sure that explains a lot of the cases; Optimas are probably more likely than other batteries to be bought by people who will abuse them. But there are also stories of Optimas failing with normal use, and it's unclear whether those failure rates are greater than the norm.

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I mean, 10 years is a long time for an underhood battery. And for a while it was quite common for Optimas to last that long.

When yours failed, was it sudden or gradual?

There seems to be a general feeling that Optima's quality started slipping at some point in the mid-2000s and isn't known to have come back yet. Optima strenuously denies this, of course. They blame hard use for the failures. I'm sure that explains a lot of the cases; Optimas are probably more likely than other batteries to be bought by people who will abuse them. But there are also stories of Optimas failing with normal use, and it's unclear whether those failure rates are greater than the norm.

it was sudden. but understand it lived on a batterytender jr. for the last 4 years. as he car is only really used for track events.

as the redtop i put in.

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