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Old 12-11-2008, 02:56 AM
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Jeff, how skewed would my calibration be if the data I sent you I logged immediately after the second drive cycle? I never let the car cool down again.
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Old 12-11-2008, 09:57 AM
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Jeff,
Since most of the AP owners are Manual Transmission owners, what gear & rpm should us 4 spd Automatic owners use? What speed is 4200 rpm and 4th for a MT? 4200 rpm in 4th is close to 100 mph for me!



9) Take your RX-8 to a safe section of completely flat highway where you can get the vehicle up to 4200 RPM in 4th gear for several miles at a time without being disturbed.
10) Once you are up to 4200 RPM in 4th, turn on your A/C, headlamps and rear defroster and set the cruise control to hold your speed.

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Hey Jeff received your new base map last night thanks, The shop will be finishing up my car today and will be starting it up tomorrow hopefully all goes well, I'm a probably play around w/your pre fix maps as well as I can switch around w/those to get proper trims vs having one map and not knowing if the car will even run off it. Worse comes to worse, I'm bringing my laptop up there w/me which has the tuner software on it and get a dyno tune.
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humm Just got back from my first trip. After reflashing my car usually drives like **** but after this whole little deal my car drove great. Idle was rock solid when coming to stops and it actually seemed to sit a bit higher around 900 rpm. STFT was dead on 0 after the drive when I was previously running 3a maps with -0 LTFT. oh well guess it's cooling time.
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 09Factor View Post
Jeff,
Since most of the AP owners are Manual Transmission owners, what gear & rpm should us 4 spd Automatic owners use? What speed is 4200 rpm and 4th for a MT? 4200 rpm in 4th is close to 100 mph for me!
I guess 2nd? The MT is doing about 60-ish MPH at 4200 RPM.

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Jeff, how skewed would my calibration be if the data I sent you I logged immediately after the second drive cycle? I never let the car cool down again.
Hard to say.
But if you are seeing LTFT being set, its probably OK.
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Jeff.

I recently removed by Mazsport coils and installed the BHR coils today. The car won’t start and I am highly confident it was installed properly because this is not the 1st time I have installed coils.

Would it be possible that my map is the cause of the problem? It currently has the different dwell settings for the Mazsport coils.
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Originally Posted by turborx8 View Post
I recently removed by Mazsport coils and installed the BHR coils today. The car won’t start and I am highly confident it was installed properly because this is not the 1st time I have installed coils.

Would it be possible that my map is the cause of the problem? It currently has the different dwell settings for the Mazsport coils.
No, that wouldn't affect it either way.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:53 PM
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Jeff should I start playing with this to get a map for my current setup or should I just send you the 10 deadly questions since I will be changing my setup as soon as I recieve your injectors and couplers?

By the way how long for that? :D
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Base calibrations work for ALL setups.
Once you get the upgraded injectors in place, you should submit for the adjusted base calibration.
You should have your stuff by the beginning of next week, I should think. I don't know exactly how long it takes for stuff to get to Puerto Rico.
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Good I guess I will have to wait then
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Originally Posted by alienRX8 View Post
Good I guess I will have to wait then
I just said you DON'T have to wait. You can just switch to a new calibration when you get your parts.
The base calibration works for ALL setups.
Just download it, install it and follow the directions.
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Data log sent!
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac View Post
I just said you DON'T have to wait. You can just switch to a new calibration when you get your parts.
The base calibration works for ALL setups.
Just download it, install it and follow the directions.
I know what you said. I might have come on the wrong way. What I mean is there is no point in me installing the AEM CAI and following the directions if I will just have to ask for even another thing a week after, or is it? That is what i am trying to decide. Is it worth it to start the process when im changing parts in a week?

Also do you think it would be smart for me to install the new turbo and CAI this weekend if possible. Then put the base map and do the logging and get this going and just install the injectors when they get here?

Im just trying to do it right and the easiest for you. Thats why im asking, dont want you to have to work more than you should.

If you think its ok that I should install the turbo and CAI this weekend with the base calibration then send you the logs and then next week install the injectors with the new map that you send me then Ill do it.

Thanks again MM
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By the way can I install the upgrade withtout the upgraded injectors? I guess yes at very low psi.

Any recommendations?
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:22 AM
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The stock injectors will take you up to 7 PSI on the upgraded turbo fairly safely.
Throw the CAI on at least.
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Old 12-12-2008, 06:33 AM
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you work late... hope you at least sleep in a bit... just got my email saying it was received at like 5:30 (am)...
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I'll sleep when I'm dead.
I was going to say ,, what are you doing up so early? And don't tell me Flashwong is still there.
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I was going to say ,, what are you doing up so early? And don't tell me Flashwong is still there.
I think I'll take a nap soon.
FW is gone. Got to take a ride in the back of a police SUV.
At least I got my beer back.
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I think I'll take a nap soon.
FW is gone. Got to take a ride in the back of a police SUV.
At least I got my beer back.

WHAT!? Tell me later. Cause as soon as I left your place one followed me until the I-10. I think he was looking for you two.
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Old 12-12-2008, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac View Post
The stock injectors will take you up to 7 PSI on the upgraded turbo fairly safely.
Throw the CAI on at least.
Im calling my friend today and if we can install tomorrow I will throw the turbo and the CAI in tomorrow to start the testing with the map. If not then I will just throw the CAI in there and start the map procedure hehe.
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:54 AM
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Damn it!! Why does all the cool stuff happen when I'm in Iraq? Also, does anyone know if the AP will work with the Esmeril Turbo? If I had to take a guess, I would say no, because the MAF is on the pressure side. Anyone got anything on this?

Edit: Talked with Ray and he confermed no go for the reason listed above.

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Old 12-12-2008, 11:48 AM
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Well called my friend and no turbo install tomorrow so I guess its just the CAI for now and then after the injectors get here Ill install everything else then. So wish me luck tomorrow working with all this :D
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Originally Posted by turborx8 View Post
Jeff.

I recently removed by Mazsport coils and installed the BHR coils today. The car won’t start and I am highly confident it was installed properly because this is not the 1st time I have installed coils.

Would it be possible that my map is the cause of the problem? It currently has the different dwell settings for the Mazsport coils.
you can always uninstall the AP and try starting the car- easiest answer.
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:32 PM
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Hey Jeff,

Now I know you said use the new base calibration map, but if I already figured out that the old "MM YYYYs TT AA vXx_1a.ptm" was correct and never got around to sending you the data log, would it make it any easier to send you the data log for that, or is it still better to remove the old 1a one, install the new one and send you the data log?

Just trying to make it easier on you.
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