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Old 03-13-2008, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The next PO will be going in early next week. If you want to get in on having one from that shipment, go to my page and follow the links.

For everyone that has already ordered theirs, the first 11 hit UPS this morning (except the Canadians, which will go out today via USPS to save them the import tariffs) and the next 15 will hit UPS tomorrow morning.

On a separate note, I just got one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220246

F-ing badd-***!
It is PERFECT for mobile tuning.
http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/sc.8/category.101/.f
http://www.mini-box.com/Alix-1C-Boar...=8&category=19

Heh...if you want something REALLY special...let me know...

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Originally Posted by NaarLeven
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Rescheduled Delivery: 03/19/2008
Whats wrong with that? That's only 6 days from now.
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Originally Posted by mysql
Catless will always have a smell. But if your idle is sufficiently lean, the fumes will be reduced. No sense in a rich idle anyway.
As sad as this sounds, this is one of the most interesting reasons for me to get the AP.... I unfortunately spend alot of the time stuck in traffic, at drive-through windows and just generally not having a chance to 'beep' it much lately... I have a nice sounding Agency Power exhaust and am considering re-re-moving my cat again (with resonated midpipe this time) to see if I can't burn a little less gas at idle with an AP tune. It seems the factory map is extremely rich (probably all emissions related BS) and I also would also hope to have slightly better low end throttle response from a new AP tune too.????
I certainly don't expect to go from 16 MPG to 26 MPG or anything, but just out of principal, if this AP is available, why not do it, and then even get some high end performance too boot! (I know bass-ackward reasoning! )

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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
The factory PCM is set to idle at 14.7 A/F.
Oh, and that brings up another thing that was bugging me... so 14.7 is perfect ideal Stoichiometry for gasoline, but with up to 10% ethanol in our gas here (especially in the winter), what are the ramifications when the PCM is expecting 100% gas, and what can the AP do to correct for it? (I believe Stoich for Ethanol is 9:1?). Probably getting in over my head here...

-C

interesting reads for the fuel noob like myself
http://www.drivingethanol.org/motors...teristics.aspx
http://www.hybridcars.com/forums/jus...nol-t1546.html

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and one more rambling.... I use sCANalyzer like many of us with CarPc's... mostly just for the onscreen fun of monitoring temps and basic things... nothing serious... But, is there any reason to believe the AP will have a real-time OBDII interface that can be run on a PC with a USB connection? Or I am just flashing the PCM at putting the whole works in the drawer until the next tuning session?
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Whats wrong with that? That's only 6 days from now.
Because I want it now damn it.
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Well, I suppose you could have asked for overnight shipping.
Would have only added about $35.
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MM,

Cant remember reading in any of the AP threads about timing in your tune. NA specifically.

Did you change any of the timing?

I think I read someone (Brettus) state he made 5 hp by pulling a few degree's of timing.

Also, Im still trying to wrap my head around all the "tables" and how the tuning works, but after reading some of the Open source NA tune thread it sounded like only parts of the OEM tune are changed, and that high speed/load (5th/6th gear) are left alone.

How is this handled in your tunes? I believe you stated yours are "scaled", correct. So would this mean the entire RPM/load range is covered with yours?
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I change/address everything.
All of the fuel tables (there are more than the three alluded to in the other thread), OMP, idle, fans, throttle response and all ignition timing.

In the N/A maps, I have subtle timing changes. In the most aggressive, there is a lot going on.
The FI maps have timing moved all over the place, depending on load and the relative detonation resistance of a particular RPM range.
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Originally Posted by Razz1
I've tunned several race bikes. Been around Micky Thompson as my brother was his mechanic.

I can tune it my self, but I don't want to invest the money or time. At least not yet.

Pretty easy decision:

MM spends tons of time w/tunning the Wankel so why should I go somewhere else or do it my self when I know MM can handle it.
My thinking as well. I tuned a motec from a dos prompt back in my college days for our SAE race team. The amount of time it takes to come up with something that will work is rather large and then you really need some pricey dyno time to prove it out. It can be done, but in the end whats the point?

Getting the AP from a knowledgeable tuner who throws his tunes in for free is a no-brainer...
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Well, no AP and no start car for me this weekend. Mine was rescheduled to 3/18.
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Woohoo! Just got my tracking number. Should be here by the 18th (4 days).

To all the people on the fence about buying from MM: You're getting it for the same price as you would get it direct from Cobb, and he's throwing in a large number of maps for nothing. I complained about the $21 PayPal fee in the beginning, but he could have set the price $100 higher and I still would have bought it from him....I just would have complained longer.

I sincerely hope MM is getting these from Cobb at a huge discount because he does deserve the money for his time tuning and testing our little Wankels. And don't even get me started on support. He's very active on this board with 8300+ posts. You get the peace-of-mind that should you ever have a problem; he'll be at the keyboard trying to help within minutes. Don't know how _you_ do it...I personally need to sleep sometimes
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Originally Posted by tdiddy
Well, no AP and no start car for me this weekend. Mine was rescheduled to 3/18.
Poor baby, at least your able to get one with proper maps
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Originally Posted by jackhain
And don't even get me started on support. He's very active on this board with 8300+ posts. You get the peace-of-mind that should you ever have a problem; he'll be at the keyboard trying to help within minutes. Don't know how _you_ do it...I personally need to sleep sometimes
Not only that, but if you're inept at doing something, he'll fly over to your house, bitch slap you for being a doofus, and then fix your car for you.

Now that's service with a smile.
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Very true. Stupid people **** me off.
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Originally Posted by mysql
Not only that, but if you're inept at doing something, he'll fly over to your house, bitch slap you for being a doofus, and then fix your car for you.

Now that's service with a smile.
Your wrong, he looks at what you did - gives you a weird glance, goes hum and then will fix your screwup.
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then whyyyy did he slap me so hard!
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But he'll still help you out. In two ways....the car....and by making you think about the dumb mistake you just made.
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I have no idea what he's making on the AP with his maps but my guess is that it ain't enough. With all my problems with tunes he has been in my garage to where he knows the location of all the tools, every time I needed him. I can't wait for his 4 port a/t AP with maps.
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I know some people can't tell, but I was joking in my last few posts here.

Even if I was beaten up, it would have been worth it
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Jeff--I know you have a lot going on an congrats on that. When you have a few minutes can you speak about how the oem pcm will "learn" after it is flashed? Talking mainly about stft and ltft's here. Does the system continue to have the ability to do trims? I know the table targets are changed and it cant go above or below the values inserted---correct? Or is this a hard tune?
A cool feature would be the ability to take the VDI signal-- reset the activation a little and use it to trigger a water meth injection system. Say at around 6.8K rather than the 7.2K it has.
thanks
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac

On a separate note, I just got one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220246

F-ing badd-***!
It is PERFECT for mobile tuning.
So, can you run the Cobb SW on *nix, or are you bastardizing that thing with XP, or just bragging that you picked up a new toy?
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"Rescheduled delivery-3/17"
monday is so close but so far away......
anyone getting theirs saturday????
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Originally Posted by olddragger
Jeff--I know you have a lot going on an congrats on that. When you have a few minutes can you speak about how the oem pcm will "learn" after it is flashed? Talking mainly about stft and ltft's here. Does the system continue to have the ability to do trims? I know the table targets are changed and it cant go above or below the values inserted---correct? Or is this a hard tune?
The PCM is your friend. The "learning" it does is NOT desigened to "un-tune" the engine. Its to arrive at the target values more accurately.
With a flash, we actually change the target values, so the trim will only make the tune more accurate.


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A cool feature would be the ability to take the VDI signal-- reset the activation a little and use it to trigger a water meth injection system. Say at around 6.8K rather than the 7.2K it has.
We can already do that.


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