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Old 11-01-2008, 11:21 PM
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I'm not sure MM responds to every email unless there's a problem. I never got a response from him either. I assume the info I sent was correct, now just need to wait for an email with my new maps.
Old 11-02-2008, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
I'm not sure MM responds to every email unless there's a problem. I never got a response from him either. I assume the info I sent was correct, now just need to wait for an email with my new maps.
I get that, but if I email someone 3 or 4 times with no response....call me crazy, but I assume there's a problem. Especially 2 months in.

Am I the only one that thinks this way?
Old 11-02-2008, 01:27 AM
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I think there should be a confirmation email or form or something. Last time I sent him info I waited a month only to discover that he never received it (although I did send it in the proper form)

I resent my info and put on a read receipt, and apparently it was read. So I'm assuming it went through correctly =)

I know this service is included in the access port...but if I were to repay him to do ths 6 month service or 5 changes...I hope the turn around time would be appropriate so you could get 5 changes in 6 months.
Old 11-02-2008, 11:16 AM
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I agree with you guys, it's tough sitting on the sidelines wondering whether Jeff received the info? Was it in the correct format? Did I graph everythign properly? Am I getting a new map? etc etc

There could definitely be better communication but there is only so much I can expect from one man trying to fulfill all these orders. Last time Jeff was on, he was talking about some type of automated web submittal, that might be the answer we're looking for.

Till then, I'll just keep running my rich maps or I can always revert back to OEM map. (yeah, not likely... )
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Reading the comments above scare me.

I am thinking about buying the BHR/MM Turbo upgrade kit but I can't wait 60+ days for the maps. This is my daily driver so I would be screwed without it.
Old 11-02-2008, 04:05 PM
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I guess making maps from far away using graphs and other stuff is tricky stuff.
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I'm kinda glad i went my own way after reading all this .
Old 11-02-2008, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GaMEChld
I guess making maps from far away using graphs and other stuff is tricky stuff.
I'm sure it is is but sending someone an email, pm or post isn't. See I just did it. Like I said, I've sent 3 or 4 emails over the course of 2 months with no responses at all. I'd even spend the $300 for his tuning service, but why would I when I can be ignored in the comfort of my home for "free".

btw, communication didn't seem to be an issue when I was asking to buy the AP.
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Oh yeah, I didn't mean to sound like I was defending the lack of communication. Just musing aloud. I mean real tuning needs live AFR feeds and takes hours on a dyno and is all kinds of crazy stuff. Its pretty crazy that he can make accurate maps remotely. I suppose he responds fast to secure the sales, but then providing the promised support within the stated time frame might be taking a back seat to new sales and working on a back log of maps to create.

In any case, if Chris and Jason at Esmeril were as sparse in communication, I would have been soooo screwed in so many ways. Whew! I guess dealing with MM might be safest for people who can do a lot of autonomous stuff on their own. I need my hand held, so I gotta stick with Esmeril's guidance for the most part. I don't know if anyone else has the patience to deal with me
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Originally Posted by GaMEChld
Oh yeah, I didn't mean to sound like I was defending the lack of communication. Just musing aloud. I mean real tuning needs live AFR feeds and takes hours on a dyno and is all kinds of crazy stuff. Its pretty crazy that he can make accurate maps remotely. I suppose he responds fast to secure the sales, but then providing the promised support within the stated time frame might be taking a back seat to new sales and working on a back log of maps to create.

In any case, if Chris and Jason at Esmeril were as sparse in communication, I would have been soooo screwed in so many ways. Whew! I guess dealing with MM might be safest for people who can do a lot of autonomous stuff on their own. I need my hand held, so I gotta stick with Esmeril's guidance for the most part. I don't know if anyone else has the patience to deal with me
Someday I may get to use the AP for real tuning. Right now I'm trying to move to FI and I'm waiting on a CA base map for the Greddy turbo with the Mazsport CAI.
Old 11-03-2008, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by GaMEChld
In any case, if Chris and Jason at Esmeril were as sparse in communication, I would have been soooo screwed in so many ways. Whew! I guess dealing with MM might be safest for people who can do a lot of autonomous stuff on their own. I need my hand held, so I gotta stick with Esmeril's guidance for the most part. I don't know if anyone else has the patience to deal with me
There's no doubt it takes some time to get your map from Jeff. But at the same time it's obvious from the thread alone that some people don't follow instructions, and that probably slows down the requests that do.

We've seen comments like "yeah I didn't attach the map just wrote the name" or "I didn't send the graph I sent you earlier" etc. I'm sure trying to keep track of all of that is impossible, which is why he says again and again to read and follow the instructions to the point.
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I'm probably doing something wrong, but I can't figure out how to log with the ap and the accesstuner. Does it not work with vista or something?
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lets see... so I'm at 41 days wait currently... looks like another month away from the judge of things... in that time I have to replace my high flow cat so that will probably mess the tune up.... so then another 60 days from there for another tune and...

...meh... might as well just continue to do it myself....
Old 11-03-2008, 06:22 PM
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Wow, I thought I was the only one on this boat...apparently not. Looks like the locals are getting restless...lol.

I know he's contributed alot to this forum and it's people but from the looks of it there are quiet a few upset customers out there.
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Originally Posted by onefatsurfer
I'm probably doing something wrong, but I can't figure out how to log with the ap and the accesstuner. Does it not work with vista or something?
Ugh. Vista FTL
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I'm pretty sure Jeff is at SEMA all week so we're just going to have to wait a bit longer.

don't kill the messenger! I just know he goes every year (might be work related) and it dawned on me that the show started this week
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IF I ORDER AP IN A FEW DAYS HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO GET? its not back ordered at all is it? i hope not.. i want to recieve it in a few days :D
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Originally Posted by Z0oMzo0m
IF I ORDER AP IN A FEW DAYS HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO GET? its not back ordered at all is it? i hope not.. i want to recieve it in a few days :D
The AP itself probably won't take long to get. What you should be concerned about is how long it takes to get a map for it....I don't think anyone really knows the answer to that.
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Yes, he is. And I miss him already. I am pretty sure Easy and Flashwong will keep me company these next few nights........

By the time MM gets back Phil's engne will be done and he will have missed yet another chance to be schooled on a proper Renesis rebuild.

And it's your turn to buy the beer.
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well thats not good... now i know mazdamaniac does custom maps. but can i have my local rx-7 shop do the data on a laptop also? do some test runs make some chnages do a couple more until we get one that works best? or i wont have the software to make my own changes?
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no, tuners should be able to work with the AP as well. I don't think you HAVE TO use MM to get working maps.
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all i am doing is using cobb's stage 1 map, and dyno with that, and then my tuner makes changes to that map.
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what would a good AFR for a F/I setup on the RX8 and would the factory air pump make a difference as to the AFR reading on a wideband gauge???
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the air pump doesn't do squat to afr.

11.5 AFR is a great starting point for FI
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Originally Posted by Z0oMzo0m
well thats not good... now i know mazdamaniac does custom maps. but can i have my local rx-7 shop do the data on a laptop also? do some test runs make some chnages do a couple more until we get one that works best? or i wont have the software to make my own changes?
Originally Posted by GaMEChld
no, tuners should be able to work with the AP as well. I don't think you HAVE TO use MM to get working maps.
Currently since the accessTUNER software has been released the answer is no, you do not have to have MazdaManiac tune your vehicle. At first, MazdaManiac was one of the few tuning professionals that had access to the software so your options were limited as to who you could go to.

However, seeing as MM has worked with the software since it was released and helped COBB with it's development he's already gotten over some hurdles with using it.

Still, it's not stopping anyone from tuning their own car or having a shop do it for you.


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