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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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If the Sti (or standard WRX) had half the power, would anybody look at it twice?
No! It's friggin ugly! Never going back to racer sedans.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
Evo X was faster even though it felt softer and is chunkier. Amazing what a good chassis allows you to do. Kinda like the 8 huh?

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6029

Subie stuff.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6054

i think they're both hidious
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kinchu007
No! It's friggin ugly! Never going back to racer sedans.
Judge Judy finds in favour for kinchu007.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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i like it... surprisingly. at first i didnt like it at all but it grew on me

i like the photoshopped taillights. the factory ones would have to be changed asap if i owned it.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Not bad, but I will leave final judgement for when I see it in person.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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The 5-spoke rims look good. Just not a hatch man as in GTI, Mazda 3 style hatches. The Mazda 6 notchback, liftback, hatch I like better. I think I'd go with a wagon over a hatch if I was going for added functionality and fast.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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Why is it that this is what comes to mind when I see the new WRX?
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 03:14 AM
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I think I may be starting to lean towards the new STI... I know a lot of people hate it but I love it! We'll see how it drives...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jJoLwrwhQ2M
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Price announced today.
34,995.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/15/l...ced-at-34-995/
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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And in "screw-you Canadians" pricing will be $55,000.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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And in "screw-you Canadians" pricing will be $55,000.
That's because god hates Canadians.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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wow, they just priced themselves out of the market. This might be a big hit overseas where hatches are still much more desired than sedans... but in the US Market - a $35k hatch is not going to cut it.

I know the STI is a lot more than "just a hatch", but im just saying from the mass american consumers standpoint... its just a hatch.

Oh and i actually like the way the new STi looks (except for the tail lights). I think i might be the only person on earth who feels this way. LOL.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BigOLundh
wow, they just priced themselves out of the market. This might be a big hit overseas where hatches are still much more desired than sedans... but in the US Market - a $35k hatch is not going to cut it.

I know the STI is a lot more than "just a hatch", but im just saying from the mass american consumers standpoint... its just a hatch.

Oh and i actually like the way the new STi looks (except for the tail lights). I think i might be the only person on earth who feels this way. LOL.

This is the same kind of doomsday nonsense people said about the new WRX. It has broken sale record two month in a row since its release. The STI never has and never will be for the mass market, it's a niche car and always will be. Subaru will have little problem selling every single STI they send to the US and anywhere else and they'll do so for close to MSRP.

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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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is it true that they are developing a sedan version sti or 09/10???
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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is it true that they are developing a sedan version sti or 09/10???
Most likely, but it's just speculation at this point. Personally I'd rather they didn't, I really like the wagon and think the new sedan is awful.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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Sorry for trolling, I actually check out this forum with my friend (jkeown) who has an RX8, but I happen to have the 06 STi. I agree they are ugly and always have been. There ya go, the honest truth

I will say it is kind of ironic that people over on some Subaru forums mention it looks more like a Mazda 3 than anything else. I have to agree, not that it's a bad thing. I will submit Subaru finds ways to make the car uglier every time, and somehow you see that backlash turn into love later on - amazing. These things have a face only a mother can love, and it shows it's gotta be fun to drive if it's so ugly right? Yea, it outweighs the looks.

Why don't I have an evo, you say? They're fun too!
Definitely. I just don't like the idea that Mitsu doesn't consistently turn a profit (warranty?), dropped out of WRC the last few years, and I don't trust the engines to last 100k miles with even the stock tune. Interior anyone?

FWIW - We had a tight RX8 dash install meet the other night, I'm sure he'll post some pictures of the hot action later today.

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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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I like both.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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Base sti is 35k add on the BBS rims (wern't they standard last time) and it jumps up 2-3k.

Thats an expensive hatch. I think Mitsu is going to geta few customers of their GSR trim Evo.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Ike
That's because god hates Canadians.
True... that's why you have god-send George W. Bush.
Woe are us...
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by osbjmg
Sorry for trolling, I actually check out this forum with my friend (jkeown) who has an RX8, but I happen to have the 06 STi. I agree they are ugly and always have been. There ya go, the honest truth

I will say it is kind of ironic that people over on some Subaru forums mention it looks more like a Mazda 3 than anything else. I have to agree, not that it's a bad thing. I will submit Subaru finds ways to make the car uglier every time, and somehow you see that backlash turn into love later on - amazing. These things have a face only a mother can love, and it shows it's gotta be fun to drive if it's so ugly right? Yea, it outweighs the looks.

Why don't I have an evo, you say? They're fun too!
Definitely. I just don't like the idea that Mitsu doesn't consistently turn a profit (warranty?), dropped out of WRC the last few years, and I don't trust the engines to last 100k miles with even the stock tune. Interior anyone?

FWIW - We had a tight RX8 dash install meet the other night, I'm sure he'll post some pictures of the hot action later today.
From the start I liked the new STI and the more I see it the more I like it. Change or modify the tails and I like it even more. I've never though any of the Imprezas were ugly and have always loved the fender flares combined with the boxy looks. Subaru probably has the best car community around, however most of them drive me nuts with their constant bashing of new models only to come around to loving them.

As for the Evo comment... Overall I give the STI the slight nod when it comes to reliability and build quality. However, that doesn't apply to the engine. I'll trust the 4g63 over the EJ25 every time. Just take a look at what is going on with the '07 STI engines, it's not pretty and just confirms again that the 4g63 is the more stout powerplant.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ike
however most of them drive me nuts with their constant bashing of new models only to come around to loving them.
I couldn't agree more, this drives me nuts. Everyone is 0/10 on the new model, then they decide it's the hottest design yet. I still get weak in the knees for the 2.5RS of old and of course the original: 22B Pure beauty. I used to be an Evo fan, that VI was just awesome.

The quality of the evo is much better than a typical mitsubishi, agreed. It is a good car, don't get me wrong. It's just much easier to daily drive and not die in the Subaru.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Here's hoping for a turbo-diesel STi. Yup.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Someone did a photoshop:

I don't know, Subarus and this STI sound like they could be a rush, but I guess enjoying how they look isn't. Photoshoped above - whoever you are - great job! Too bad, no... make that a tragedy ... that Subarudu-san didn't hire you like a few years ago!

You could have saved lots of people retnal damage. I look at the OEM STI pics and my brain just winces and thinks - What WERE they thinking? Let's hope it drives good enough to compensate or it's easy to turn it into the above.

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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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It's FUGIN UKLY!
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