xexok

Yea I know you can make any car fast but the amount of money it takes is just too much. I know the rx8 isn't fast compared to many out there and never thought it really was, it just handles well. I never got a chance to really test the rx7 in turns because I was not comfortable enough driving it yet so I cannot compare that aspect of it to the rx8. I will always enjoy making turns in the rx8 but I think I just need something with more power and dropping 10k on this car is not the right answer.

Better investment as in that car does hold its value better. Just looking at mine I bought it used 1 year old and it went from 27k to 17k, now a few years later kbb is saying the car is worth 11k private party value and another website shows about 16k retail. If I have to sell this car for anywhere near 11k after over 3 years of ownership and only 30k miles then I consider that the value dropping quite a bit faster than it should. I know new cars drop in value quite a bit right off the lot so I expected the first drop even though it was rather large, but I didn't think it would continue dropping at a similar rate.

RIWWP

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Making any car "fast" is entirely subjective. There is always something faster and it doesn't matter the base car you start with, it's always going to cost an obscene amount of money trying to be the fastest.




The key thing is to just find what speaks to you, what you are happy with, and keep it. Some people that pursue more power constantly... I don't believe they are ever happy with what they have.

thunderberk

Now my car races with s2000 (headers, filter, single exhaust, and lightweight nearly 1220 kg)
My car has need lots of tune if i have a budget..

RX-8 is fast car when you tune it what do you know about rotary ! That's why people sale their RX-8 because they don't know their cars what can they manage or not !

Rotary is different world ! Buying fd never change your mind bro sorry !

blackenedwings

That is a very pretty FD. In fairness, that isn't a heavily modified FD3S at all. The power level it's generating it could do on just a tune with stock sequentials and cat delete.

They are very different cars. The RX-8 is more comfortable, more modern, with a lot of interior details you won't get in a car as old as the FD. The RX-8 has 4 doors and 4 seats. The FD will squeak and rattle and possibly smell like an old leather handbag. It will also blow the doors off the RX-8. Choose the car that makes the most sense for what you use it for. Trying to turn a car into something it's not just leads to unhappiness.

RIWWP and I disagree on a lot of the particulars about what we personally enjoy in cars, but we totally agree on trying to find that car that you have a personal love for. A connection with the car that puts that big **** eating grin on your face is all that matters.

dannobre

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I drove a stock 8 the other day....

Feels very slow

xexok

Riwwp I understand what you mean about some people always chasing the faster car or more power. To me this car had the perfect amount of power. It could have been faster of course, but it just felt so perfect with the power level it had even if it is not enough for some people. I know it is not a very practical car to drive around but with its more conservative tuning it did help the practicality a bit. Even when you really got on it it didn't feel like it was going to lose control at all and never had an issue spinning the tires. I dunno, it is hard to describe the feeling of driving any car without the person either being in it or having driven it before.

Thunderberk I'm not even sure what you are trying to say in most of your post. I think the most someone has got out of an NA rx8 is somewhere around 220 rwhp with every single possible thing done to it without porting. Not sure of the numbers with some porting but from what I have read there is a definite limit on the amount of porting that can be done on this car compared to previous rotaries. As far as tuning a 09+ rx8 goes last I checked it still seems to be in a beta phase where people are figuring everything out with the software. I know you can tune the 04-08s very easily with a cobb.

thunderberk

You always repeat Rx-8 is slow car no it isn't slow. It is fast as bolt on s2000 with tune and weight reduction you don't need porting.. After porting i don't want to write anything because Rx-8 is a potentional sports car.

Tuners and Normal drivers don't know much thing about cars they know which brand names hit on the scene they know only that. Like you have a great potential car but you don't know its worth..

xexok

No I explained the potential it had in that post. The rx8 is not slow but it is not a very fast car stock either, you cannot actually be arguing that point. You just have to decide if you are willing to dump a lot of money into it or not to make it faster. Clearly you have decided on that already and I made a different decision, nothing wrong with that. Even with regular boltons you are not getting very far with it, I think the average person out there is probably looking at around 200whp if they have a healthy engine. Most people seem to end up making 160-180 whp stock(again, engine health) so it is a hard climb to get up to 200+ for many.

In your other posts even you have said yourself "i need more power for straight performance" so I am really confused at why you are giving me so much trouble over me stating the same thing.

thunderberk

Yes 210 whp's possible without porting..

Mazda's opinion on rotaries n/a ones better for overall performance on time attacks etc.. You are free what ever you want to buy but you must respect on people looking views.

Yes,
i need more power on straight performance because of my rivals are fast and i am racing with them that's not means my car is slow

Cheers

monchie

Never knew it was meant like that...ha ha

Brettus

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I dunno ............. I've had 400whp FD guys ride in my car and tell me my turbo renesis is way smoother and more linear in performance = more fun to drive .

gwilliams6

I also have owned both FD RX7 and 40th Anniversary RX8. They are very different. The FD is a faster ride great, but also a harsher ride. The RX8 is a smoother more comfortable ride and has loads more room for passengers and luggage. I am 6ft 4in and I had to shoe horn myself into my FD. It truly fit me like a glove, a very tight glove. The RX8 has plenty of room for me, my girl and another friend (no one but the dog can fit in seat behind me- I have to put the driver's seat way back for my long legs ). As others have said here, the RX8 is more refined and a more balanced car with the latest DSC and traction control . I have driven both cars across the country, and the RX7 was great thrilling fun, running down Porsches and the like; the RX8 is a comfortable dream- it was picked by KBB as one of the ten best road cars in the world. Unless you have a RX TRIX wrench in your area,or you are a qualified one, you will have an easier time getting parts and work done of an RX8 than any FD, especially one this modified. I have owned seven RXs, with several of them modified, all the way up to 450+ hp. It gets expensive at that point to keep it all together over the long haul. I am truly happy with driving my RX8. some days I miss my FD RX7, but not in the winter or going over rough roads. I will keep my RX8 and wait to add the next 16Xengine RX7 slated for 2017. that car should embody all the best of the latest RX technology, with the spirit of the last RX7.

xexok

Gwilliams I understand what you are trying to say. I agree that the rx8 is a better commuter/daily by far. I'm sure it is nice having tcs/dsc but I have never had a car with those in it before, and even now my rx8 is a sport model so it lacks those. I know if I lived somewhere it snowed rather than just rained heavily then I would for sure be storing an fd or even my rx8 for the winter. There are many creature comforts in the rx8 that are nice, I really do like changing the radio stations and volume from the steering wheel.

I had a hell of a time sitting in this FD myself. Standing next to it the roof was below my belly button so I had to almost have a plan of attack to get in that thing lol. That and the extra maintenance are the main reasons I decided not to buy an FD right now, but some day I will definitely be buying one as I really enjoyed everything about that car.