Mazda unveil new concept: Mazda Shinari
09-01-2010, 04:08 PM
#228
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Mmmm RG, I do not know if this does have a Rotary when you hear this clip...no throaty noise at all...perhaps Automotive News put in the sound??
Bugga!!..I wish it wasn't so WINDY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTcjibUfGLg
Bugga!!..I wish it wasn't so WINDY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTcjibUfGLg
09-01-2010, 04:11 PM
#229
this car has a 2.0 4 cylinder engine in it and a mazda 2 rear (widen) suspension.
It will not be a production car.
Sorry to bust any bubbles.
Car and Driver just released this info.
There may be in the sometime future a "Sky Rotary" engine--but not in this car.
OD
It will not be a production car.
Sorry to bust any bubbles.
Car and Driver just released this info.
There may be in the sometime future a "Sky Rotary" engine--but not in this car.
OD
09-01-2010, 04:38 PM
#230
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At least the WHEELS TURN and It drives under own steam...OD
09-01-2010, 04:39 PM
#231
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More NEWS...
http://wot.motortrend.com/6681587/fu...ech/index.html
According to our sources, Mazda is working on the biggest rethink ever of its signature Wankel rotary engine, with a 'stroker' version under development. A new eccentric shaft, with greater, err, eccentricity, would increase engine diameter, but could help improve the engine's fuel efficiency. Senior engineers add that some Sky-G piston engine technologies are applicable to the rotary, and could also help cut its thirst and exhaust emissions.
As we reported recently, the new rotary engine, codenamed 16X, is currently under development. Engineers have been struggling to find the sweet spot containing optimum power with low fuel consumption, emissions, and oil consumption that has hindered development thus far. If Mazda's Sky-G technology is adaptable, it could give Mazda the efficiency and cleanliness it needs to break out from prototype to production.
Those worried that Mazda may give up on the rotary altogether needn't be. "The rotary is like a jewel or a treasure for Mazda," Kanai says, adding that Mazda is the only company that knows how to polish something so valuable.
http://wot.motortrend.com/6681587/fu...ech/index.html
According to our sources, Mazda is working on the biggest rethink ever of its signature Wankel rotary engine, with a 'stroker' version under development. A new eccentric shaft, with greater, err, eccentricity, would increase engine diameter, but could help improve the engine's fuel efficiency. Senior engineers add that some Sky-G piston engine technologies are applicable to the rotary, and could also help cut its thirst and exhaust emissions.
As we reported recently, the new rotary engine, codenamed 16X, is currently under development. Engineers have been struggling to find the sweet spot containing optimum power with low fuel consumption, emissions, and oil consumption that has hindered development thus far. If Mazda's Sky-G technology is adaptable, it could give Mazda the efficiency and cleanliness it needs to break out from prototype to production.
Those worried that Mazda may give up on the rotary altogether needn't be. "The rotary is like a jewel or a treasure for Mazda," Kanai says, adding that Mazda is the only company that knows how to polish something so valuable.
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09-01-2010, 05:00 PM
#232
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"Please ask Mazda to do a new sports car, please..." begs Maeda.
Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/6681587/fu...#ixzz0yJkOsGIY
Just where exactly can we do this? Do they have a site where we can comment..? Just calling them seems pointless, talking to some unnamed telephone rep....
Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/6681587/fu...#ixzz0yJkOsGIY
Just where exactly can we do this? Do they have a site where we can comment..? Just calling them seems pointless, talking to some unnamed telephone rep....
09-01-2010, 05:06 PM
#233
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the platform its sitting on appears to be the newest platform that will be used for the 6 as well as everything from the 3- the cx-9 as its purposefully made modular. they are even trying to fit it under the 2. in C/D segment configuration(6) they said it is 100kg lighter than the current 6 platform
09-01-2010, 05:11 PM
#234
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"Please ask Mazda to do a new sports car, please..." begs Maeda.
Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/6681587/fu...#ixzz0yJkOsGIY
Just where exactly can we do this? Do they have a site where we can comment..? Just calling them seems pointless, talking to some unnamed telephone rep....
Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/6681587/fu...#ixzz0yJkOsGIY
Just where exactly can we do this? Do they have a site where we can comment..? Just calling them seems pointless, talking to some unnamed telephone rep....
they like to get emails. as long as people keep emailing they will keep listening. calling does work to
09-01-2010, 07:19 PM
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We peeked underneath the concept and discovered a 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine (likely one of the company’s new Sky powerplants) driving the front wheels, and a lower-control-arm front-suspension layout.
Paul.
09-01-2010, 10:17 PM
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This concept coming with a 2.0 piston motor driving the front wheels doesn't necessarily mean much at all. They simply need to give it a powerplant to move it around and the EASIEST way to do that is to throw this concept car on top of current "off-the-shelf" Mazda 3/6 parts.
If you look inside the dashboard where it shows a diagram of the car's "drivetrain". The engine position painted on that gauge shows that it's mounted BEHIND the front axles which is basically impossible to do if you're planning on using a FWD layout.
Basically, this IS the next RX. The current 16X wasn't used because it's not finished yet, possibly because Mazda want's to try implementing the new SKY technology to see if it can further improve it's rotary. The reason why the concept car is not rear-wheel driven is strictly due to ease and economic reasons. It IS a concept car, this is just to show the audience a design language as well as aesthetics at the point. The next adaptation of the concept will probably be a mule that will be a mechanically closer link to the potential showroom model.
We can rest assured that this car WILL eventually make it onto the market. I'm 98.9% sure it will also come with a SKY 16x as well as RWD.
If you look inside the dashboard where it shows a diagram of the car's "drivetrain". The engine position painted on that gauge shows that it's mounted BEHIND the front axles which is basically impossible to do if you're planning on using a FWD layout.
Basically, this IS the next RX. The current 16X wasn't used because it's not finished yet, possibly because Mazda want's to try implementing the new SKY technology to see if it can further improve it's rotary. The reason why the concept car is not rear-wheel driven is strictly due to ease and economic reasons. It IS a concept car, this is just to show the audience a design language as well as aesthetics at the point. The next adaptation of the concept will probably be a mule that will be a mechanically closer link to the potential showroom model.
We can rest assured that this car WILL eventually make it onto the market. I'm 98.9% sure it will also come with a SKY 16x as well as RWD.
09-02-2010, 07:24 AM
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The iconic FWD Cord L-29 and 810 were this layout, and the famous Citroen Traction Avant and DS and SM used this configuration in mass production from 1934 - 1975 (with many rally successes), along with Renault 4, 5, and 16.
Hmmm... a mid-engine FWD rotary Mazda......
09-02-2010, 07:55 AM
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LOL...not true at all. I'd love to hear your reasoning behind that misconception.
The iconic FWD Cord L-29 and 810 were this layout, and the famous Citroen Traction Avant and DS and SM used this configuration in mass production from 1934 - 1975 (with many rally successes), along with Renault 4, 5, and 16.
Hmmm... a mid-engine FWD rotary Mazda......
The iconic FWD Cord L-29 and 810 were this layout, and the famous Citroen Traction Avant and DS and SM used this configuration in mass production from 1934 - 1975 (with many rally successes), along with Renault 4, 5, and 16.
Hmmm... a mid-engine FWD rotary Mazda......
Paul.
09-02-2010, 07:58 AM
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Considering how production ready it looks, I think people are just forgetting that this is a just a display of exterior and interior design as you say. Not a preliminary display of a car they are bringing to market.
If nothing else, I think the torsion beam rear suspension gives that away, even if common sense doesn't.
If nothing else, I think the torsion beam rear suspension gives that away, even if common sense doesn't.