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Old 10-20-2009, 06:07 PM
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I wonder if moving upmarket means they intend to compete with sport coupes produced by BMW, Infiniti and Lexus?
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All I want is one more generation of a pure 2-seater light-weight rotary sports car before the rest of you young whipper-snappers are all doomed to hybrid mopeds. This is the car for my retirement and I want it as soon as soon as my oldest turns 16. Back seat, we don't need no stinkin' back seats.
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
I wonder if moving upmarket means they intend to compete with sport coupes produced by BMW, Infiniti and Lexus?
Hope not. Just buy a Cayman if you got money to spare.
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
I wonder if moving upmarket means they intend to compete with sport coupes produced by BMW, Infiniti and Lexus?

interestingly several commenters, here and elsewhere, seem to have taken (im not saying you have)his comment

pushing the brand upmarket by addressing the quality of the company's interiors.
to mean the RX-7 in particular when he is saying bringing better quality interior materials to the whole line-up.
Old 10-20-2009, 08:42 PM
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the rx7 was always known for price creep......

thats bad imo. the rx8 is a good cheap sports car. we dont need the 16x to be in a $50k sports car. the fully loaded gt (like mine) was $38k MSRP. mid 40s you might as well get a porsche or bmw.
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I will be shocked if it comes in under $50k. I do trust Mazda to keep it around 3000lbs though. Too many cars these days are pushing 2 tons.
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Revealing that other car companies (Japanese and European primarily) are showing/releasing new sports or sporty cars for production and showing fututre concepts (Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Lotus, etc., etc.) while on the other hand.... Mazda is thinking the time is not right and is saying it's only in the beginning stages of producing sketches for approval.

For example https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...44#post3288244

Show me pre-production metal Mazda or give us a release date...else I say we're all just being strung along again with vague words and little else just like has been happening ... what is this now 6 yrs? Each new guy has these great ideas...then they don't happen... then they move on.

Going back to sleep.....

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pushing the brand upmarket by addressing the quality of the company's interiors.
Hope this translates into the $1.389 heater ***** (that any Mazda parts dept lovingly charges $46 for) won't break/fall off this new car's like they do in the RX-8.
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They've been working on an RX7 for years (Mazda Japan), which still doesn't mean anything in this fancy economy with the Yen/USD ratio the way it is presently. What exactly he means by "he's done sketches", I don't know. There are normally quite a few renderings.

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up market can mean 2 things in my mind, upper 30's like the 370z or low 40's like the base vette.
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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
up market can mean 2 things in my mind, upper 30's like the 370z or low 40's like the base vette.
+1.....
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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
up market can mean 2 things in my mind, upper 30's like the 370z or low 40's like the base vette.
Originally Posted by zoom44
interestingly several commenters, here and elsewhere, seem to have taken (im not saying you have)his comment



to mean the RX-7 in particular when he is saying bringing better quality interior materials to the whole line-up.
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I think it has a good shot of production, if the economy improves and the US$ quits pretending to be the equivalent of the Mexican Peso.
But it is nice that are spending some money producing sketches of the next generation RX7. I would love to be a fly on the wall of that studio.
If they keep the price within 10% of the current RX8 prices, it certainly would have me thinking...
Just keep it around the same weight and 275hp, 225 torqies and I'd be happy. Hopefully the designer will come up with a nice iconic car like a modern FD.
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I'm missing where this is "good" news...

... there so far is no hint of anything showing at Tokyo that the 16x is being fit in
... there was a lot of talk of the next rotary car dropping the 4 seats for 2

and now its revealed mazda hasn't even done anything more the a few sketches meaning an actual car is 4-5 years off
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Originally Posted by r0tor
and now its revealed mazda hasn't even done anything more the a few sketches meaning an actual car is 4-5 years off

i don't think this car is 4-5 years off....

2-3 IMHO (or less).....Maeda is playing with words.......

they repeatly talked about a NEW rotary engine into a NEW car (CEO, this summer) .

at this level of speak they simply can't talk about "4-5 years off"
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Does this mean the rx-8 days are numbered?

This, although exciting, says and proves nothing but just little enthusiasm on rotary fans. They have been working on a rx-7 for years now and nothing.

Like a previous poster said, show me the pre-production version and/or the release date. Then this will be worth getting happy about
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Originally Posted by MattMPS
i don't think this car is 4-5 years off....

2-3 IMHO (or less).....Maeda is playing with words.......

they repeatly talked about a NEW rotary engine into a NEW car (CEO, this summer) .

at this level of speak they simply can't talk about "4-5 years off"
well reading autoweek the 16x is pretty much a bust and needs to be further enhanced... so they don't have a car and they don't have an engine yet.


The RX-8 is going to go down the same road as the RX-7 did... stop exporting it, try to ***** it out to the home market, and wait around for several more years until they actually have something thats competitive int he world market.
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
That could be an interpretation, but I doubt it. The current market doesn't really allow anything 'un-green' that is also 'un-practical' right now. Sure there is niche stuff, but even a $30,000 gas guzzling sports car probably wouldn't gain much of a following to support it financially right now. (I almost put $20,000, but then I realized, that is where the econobox's are sitting in price, or almost.) Most of the 8s out there were originally sold well before the economy crash, and that was considered cheap at the time.
Of course wait a couple of more months and you may be able to get a gas-guzzling leftover '09 RX-8 for the econobox price. With current rebates and invoice pricing you should already be able to get one for around 25k.
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Please ..... wake me when it get here .......
Old 10-22-2009, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by r0tor
...they don't have a car and they don't have an engine...
rOtor has summed this whole mess up, unfortunately, all too well...

... can we close this thread now?

... any hope of any new rotary car is history for the forseeable future.

... over and out...
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you guys are so pessemistic.

the purpose of this thread is that they WANT a new RX-7. Is it ready, no. It is designed, no.
But there is hope and all the right people are pushing for it.
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MOOD HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY

Not sure if this has been posted yet..

Report: 2012 Mazda RX-8 to be Evolutionary, Not Revolutionary

"With the rotary's aforementioned aversion to fuel-economy, torque and emissions laws, though, it'll be a tough sell. The fact that Mazda already has a two-seat sports car in the Miata and a rotary-powered sports car in the RX-8 makes a third sports car that essentially combines the other two a tough proposition, especially in these cash-strapped times"


http://wot.motortrend.com/6584246/au...ary/index.html
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so... 2012 2nd Gen RX-8 with 16X...
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Renesis_8
so... 2012 2nd Gen RX-8 with 16X...
Uh ... I don't think that's what they said, but I really don't want to wake you from your sweet dreams, so just go back to sleep and we'll wake you when it happens.
Old 10-23-2009, 07:51 PM
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So the next gen RX-8 won't have the 16X? I don't see what the point would be of releasing the car before the new engine is ready.
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