Lexus reveals $375,000 LF-A at Tokyo Auto Show
10-22-2009, 01:51 PM
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Better in what way? I would take this over a veyron. Well, unless it was free. Then I would take the veyron, sell it, and buy the LF-A and have lots of extra money. But if I could afford either one and had my choice between just those 2, then the LF-A would be my pick, hands down.
10-22-2009, 03:04 PM
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i actually think its pretty ugly. i would never want one, and couldnt justify paying more than about $80k for it.
i'd sell a kidney, my children and all my friends children for the DBS tho.
i'd sell a kidney, my children and all my friends children for the DBS tho.
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10-22-2009, 03:14 PM
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People this car has nothing to do with the Supra in anywhich way,,,
Facts are this car is a demonstration of what Toyota learned in F1 not some 15 year old riced out overwieght uneconomical bloated wanna be,,,
Facts are this car is a demonstration of what Toyota learned in F1 not some 15 year old riced out overwieght uneconomical bloated wanna be,,,
10-22-2009, 03:49 PM
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2) did you just say the LFA is economical?
10-22-2009, 04:48 PM
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Actually yes, at $375K the lucky 500 people who will own will have stolen it, in reality Toyota is taking a huge hit on every single one, it cost about half a mil to make and when considering that it cost Toyota about $450 million per year for the last 5 years to learn what they did in F1 to produce it, its the most economical exotic in the world,,,
10-22-2009, 05:07 PM
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ok i dont think it looks bad but ive lost interest in it like i feel its less WOWing everytime i see more pics ... still good looking but the specs are killing it i mean 3.7 secs! there are already a bunch of cars that can do that heck the ZR1 can do it with a v8 so can the new Ferrari so i mean while i get the point of toyota showing what theyve learned in f1 it doesnt really come across coz if they learned so much how come they cant make it faster or more "affordable" like nissan (GTR i dont like it but its definitely bang for the buck) Just saying i would personally pick something "cooler" even if i did have that money to spend ...
10-23-2009, 10:13 AM
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And if Toyota just learned about bettering themselves in F1 by making this car I really feel sorry for them. Because Ferrari has been making F1 -esc cars for over 40 years now. Every Ferrari you buy especially the new ones of late has some sort of F1 technology in it.
And someone mentiond that your buying so much advanced technology when you buy this LF-A, what the hell do you think your buying when you buy a Lamborghini or a Ferrari or a Mclaren F1? A car with 20th century technology? I don't think so... From the frames, to the wheels, suspension and body , its all the state of the art advancement in technology being used for today and tomorrow purposes.
There is a reason why guy A can run his Ferrari into a bridge support at a 100 mph and walk away from it and guy B who drives his Lexus IS350 into the same bridge support will die at sudden impact.
Those Ferrari's and other super cars may look fragile but they have alot tougher skin underneath than one would think. All due to some serious technological work in place.
I really like the LF-A , but 375k is too steep especially when other cars for far more less are just as advanced a.k.a , R8, ZR-1 , GT-R and soon to be released GT-R spec V.
And someone mentiond that your buying so much advanced technology when you buy this LF-A, what the hell do you think your buying when you buy a Lamborghini or a Ferrari or a Mclaren F1? A car with 20th century technology? I don't think so... From the frames, to the wheels, suspension and body , its all the state of the art advancement in technology being used for today and tomorrow purposes.
There is a reason why guy A can run his Ferrari into a bridge support at a 100 mph and walk away from it and guy B who drives his Lexus IS350 into the same bridge support will die at sudden impact.
Those Ferrari's and other super cars may look fragile but they have alot tougher skin underneath than one would think. All due to some serious technological work in place.
I really like the LF-A , but 375k is too steep especially when other cars for far more less are just as advanced a.k.a , R8, ZR-1 , GT-R and soon to be released GT-R spec V.
10-23-2009, 11:20 AM
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10-23-2009, 11:21 AM
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And if Toyota just learned about bettering themselves in F1 by making this car I really feel sorry for them. Because Ferrari has been making F1 -esc cars for over 40 years now. Every Ferrari you buy especially the new ones of late has some sort of F1 technology in it.
And someone mentiond that your buying so much advanced technology when you buy this LF-A, what the hell do you think your buying when you buy a Lamborghini or a Ferrari or a Mclaren F1? A car with 20th century technology? I don't think so... From the frames, to the wheels, suspension and body , its all the state of the art advancement in technology being used for today and tomorrow purposes.
There is a reason why guy A can run his Ferrari into a bridge support at a 100 mph and walk away from it and guy B who drives his Lexus IS350 into the same bridge support will die at sudden impact.
Those Ferrari's and other super cars may look fragile but they have alot tougher skin underneath than one would think. All due to some serious technological work in place.
I really like the LF-A , but 375k is too steep especially when other cars for far more less are just as advanced a.k.a , R8, ZR-1 , GT-R and soon to be released GT-R spec V.
And someone mentiond that your buying so much advanced technology when you buy this LF-A, what the hell do you think your buying when you buy a Lamborghini or a Ferrari or a Mclaren F1? A car with 20th century technology? I don't think so... From the frames, to the wheels, suspension and body , its all the state of the art advancement in technology being used for today and tomorrow purposes.
There is a reason why guy A can run his Ferrari into a bridge support at a 100 mph and walk away from it and guy B who drives his Lexus IS350 into the same bridge support will die at sudden impact.
Those Ferrari's and other super cars may look fragile but they have alot tougher skin underneath than one would think. All due to some serious technological work in place.
I really like the LF-A , but 375k is too steep especially when other cars for far more less are just as advanced a.k.a , R8, ZR-1 , GT-R and soon to be released GT-R spec V.
Lamborghinis on the other hand have never been technology driven they have just been about lavishness and outlaw-esque power, they themselves(upper management) have always been of the mindset that they actually refuse to get involved with competitive motorsports, and its true, the few and far between entries in the LMS, ALMS, EUGT etc. etc. have all been privateer efforts with no factory support and thats why they fail so miserably. Lamborghinis were always reknown for being deathtraps. Its only been the last couple yrs that they have actually been technical marvels due to the fact by being acquired by Audi, a motorsports giant from the begining,,,
The LFA is technical symphony, everything about it screams advanced proccess, advanced materials, and advanced and superior ways to bring that technology to the street, that being said, the most exciting thing about this demosnstration(thats really what it is) is what technology will be trickled down into other Toyotas like the FT-86 and others that will be coming out in the next 5-10 yrs...
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10-23-2009, 11:52 AM
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yes and Ferrari is the most winningest team in F1 ever, they inject the technology that is developed into every car they produce and it show, and has shown for 60+ yrs,,,
Lamborghinis on the other hand have never been technology driven they have just been about lavishness and outlaw-esque power, they themselves(upper management) have always been of the mindset that they actually refuse to get involved with competitive motorsports, and its true, the few and far between entries in the LMS, ALMS, EUGT etc. etc. have all been privateer efforts with no factory support and thats why they fail so miserably. Lamborghinis were always reknown for being deathtraps. Its only been the last couple yrs that they have actually been technical marvels due to the fact by being acquired by Audi, a motorsports giant from the begining,,,
The LFA is technical symphony, everything about it screams advanced proccess, advanced materials, and advanced and superior ways to bring that technology to the street, that being said, the most exciting thing about this demosnstration(thats really what it is) is what technology will be trickled down into other Toyotas like the FT-86 and others that will be coming out in the next 5-10 yrs...
Lamborghinis on the other hand have never been technology driven they have just been about lavishness and outlaw-esque power, they themselves(upper management) have always been of the mindset that they actually refuse to get involved with competitive motorsports, and its true, the few and far between entries in the LMS, ALMS, EUGT etc. etc. have all been privateer efforts with no factory support and thats why they fail so miserably. Lamborghinis were always reknown for being deathtraps. Its only been the last couple yrs that they have actually been technical marvels due to the fact by being acquired by Audi, a motorsports giant from the begining,,,
The LFA is technical symphony, everything about it screams advanced proccess, advanced materials, and advanced and superior ways to bring that technology to the street, that being said, the most exciting thing about this demosnstration(thats really what it is) is what technology will be trickled down into other Toyotas like the FT-86 and others that will be coming out in the next 5-10 yrs...
The ZR-1 uses almost all the technology that is used in its race car evil twin. It uses carbon fiber and other exotic materials for strength and reliability . And the info that is recorded from there race cars is trickled down to other high performance GM cars and trucks that are driven on our roads everyday. Race proven performance, race proven reliability at a fraction of the price to play.
So why should the public pay $375k again?Is it the name plate, no. Can't be for the racing heritage ? Plenty of name plates have just about the same or more.It couldn't be for the limitited edition status because the ZR-1 is a limited production base car too.
So why the $ 375k again?
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10-23-2009, 11:56 AM
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well its almost equivocal, LFA - 500 units - $375K, ZR1 - 2000 units - $120K
Plus like you cited, the ZR1 has all the ALMS tech, and Corvette racing has been completely dominant in its GT1 and even signs of being dominant in GT2, which is a car that even resembles the street ZR1 more closely, Toyota just needed an injection to revitalize the co, and this is it, they will absolutely not make a single penny off of it(actually loose about $100K on each one) but its just a statement saying hey look we can make a highly advanced sports car too,
Dont worry about the price yet, like I said, the tech in the next 5 yrs is what we should be focusing on, when they start to implant this tech into 370Z(or whatever it might be by then) competitors like the FT86,,, thats when the real fun starts,,,
Plus like you cited, the ZR1 has all the ALMS tech, and Corvette racing has been completely dominant in its GT1 and even signs of being dominant in GT2, which is a car that even resembles the street ZR1 more closely, Toyota just needed an injection to revitalize the co, and this is it, they will absolutely not make a single penny off of it(actually loose about $100K on each one) but its just a statement saying hey look we can make a highly advanced sports car too,
Dont worry about the price yet, like I said, the tech in the next 5 yrs is what we should be focusing on, when they start to implant this tech into 370Z(or whatever it might be by then) competitors like the FT86,,, thats when the real fun starts,,,
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