My 8 hesitation question
10-29-2008, 08:29 AM
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Well this morning I started her up and had a smoke (3-4 min), yes Kafka I like my **** and that's why I like you
backed out of the drive way and tried what dozer mentioned. Before backing out of the drive way my 8 was revin around 1250ishrpm. I reved her up to just over 2krpm and let the clutch off slowly and little to no hesitation. I guess at the higher rpms on a cold start, the A/F is working it's best or something like that. I am use to revin up my old car (V-tech). Pros if you know how to check the coils, by all means let me know when. When it's plus 20 again?
lol.Will be doing some research on the ignition upgrade in the mean time.
Thx again for everyone's input! Cheers!
10-29-2008, 06:31 PM
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Smoke was from the engine, seemed to be at the back behind the oil dip stick. Yes the CEL was flashing, then when I was driving with the rpms up it would go off for a bit slow down and back on again. I haven't tried starting it again.
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10-29-2008, 06:39 PM
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thats important, flashing or not. flashing means the ecu detected multiple missfires. that means get your foot out of it. also, if you are missing that bad sounds like its time for a the very least plugs. maybe coils. I noticed mine had a miss the other day when i beat on it before it was all the way to operating temp (it was 1/2 way to OT or 1/4 on the gauge). Then today leaving work it happened again, but this time at about 4500rpm instead of at like 7 grand like last time. im gonna do plugs for sure and see what happens.
Also, was there one side of the engine bay the smoke was coming from more? what im getting at, if you are missfiring, all that extra fuel gets dumped into the exhaust, or it can be burning late out into the exhaust and cause it to get really hot. Ive seen a car do it once so bad that the cat had a red ring around the center of it because it was so hot.
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Also, was there one side of the engine bay the smoke was coming from more? what im getting at, if you are missfiring, all that extra fuel gets dumped into the exhaust, or it can be burning late out into the exhaust and cause it to get really hot. Ive seen a car do it once so bad that the cat had a red ring around the center of it because it was so hot.
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10-29-2008, 06:45 PM
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pros, its more important that its flashing or not. like i said, flashing indicates a missfire, regardless of the other codes it keeps.
whens that last time you did plugs thumper?
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whens that last time you did plugs thumper?
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10-29-2008, 06:47 PM
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10-29-2008, 06:50 PM
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10-29-2008, 06:51 PM
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flashing is bad, if you did 4502F, which would have been done when you imported in, since it was a mandatory recall and recalls need to be done when importing. On the basis of his join date, I assume his leading were replaced last year.
10-29-2008, 06:53 PM
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thats important, flashing or not. flashing means the ecu detected multiple missfires. that means get your foot out of it. also, if you are missing that bad sounds like its time for a the very least plugs. maybe coils. I noticed mine had a miss the other day when i beat on it before it was all the way to operating temp (it was 1/2 way to OT or 1/4 on the gauge). Then today leaving work it happened again, but this time at about 4500rpm instead of at like 7 grand like last time. im gonna do plugs for sure and see what happens.
Also, was there one side of the engine bay the smoke was coming from more? what im getting at, if you are missfiring, all that extra fuel gets dumped into the exhaust, or it can be burning late out into the exhaust and cause it to get really hot. Ive seen a car do it once so bad that the cat had a red ring around the center of it because it was so hot.
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Also, was there one side of the engine bay the smoke was coming from more? what im getting at, if you are missfiring, all that extra fuel gets dumped into the exhaust, or it can be burning late out into the exhaust and cause it to get really hot. Ive seen a car do it once so bad that the cat had a red ring around the center of it because it was so hot.
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I wasn't beating on it at all, like 2000rpm.
I guess more the leftside that I noticed first. Left when looking at the engine.
10-29-2008, 06:54 PM
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When u guys headin over?
10-29-2008, 07:12 PM
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right, not on forgot that part. even still, when it happens on mine, i take my foot right off the gas and let it coast (usually pull off on the next sideroad) until the light stops flashing, then i gingerly get on the gas little by little. mines only acting up when its cold though...
and the passenger side of the engine is where the exhaust manifold is, so the smoke that you saw was likely from that being so hot....any water or moister or anything that gets near it is gonna roast right away. as long as it didnt smell like something bad was cooking, i wouldnt worry about the smoke. its effect, and you need to fix the cause. if you just did the plugs, then coils would be the next guess. mightneed plugs again though if youve been missfiring a bit recently the plugs can get fouled pretty bad
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and the passenger side of the engine is where the exhaust manifold is, so the smoke that you saw was likely from that being so hot....any water or moister or anything that gets near it is gonna roast right away. as long as it didnt smell like something bad was cooking, i wouldnt worry about the smoke. its effect, and you need to fix the cause. if you just did the plugs, then coils would be the next guess. mightneed plugs again though if youve been missfiring a bit recently the plugs can get fouled pretty bad
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10-29-2008, 09:24 PM
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Marc,
Got your message. I really don't know. You should take it to a dealer to check. The coils seem likely since if they are not providing sufficient voltage, the sparkplugs will not spark, and your fuel will not ignite, which in turn means you are dumping raw fuel into the CAT. That would actually "cool down" the CAT though, so it wouldn't glow red.
do you smell unburnt fuel vapours from your exhaust? If you stop by my condo, I can hook up the scanguage to read any stored DTC codes you may have.
Got your message. I really don't know. You should take it to a dealer to check. The coils seem likely since if they are not providing sufficient voltage, the sparkplugs will not spark, and your fuel will not ignite, which in turn means you are dumping raw fuel into the CAT. That would actually "cool down" the CAT though, so it wouldn't glow red.
do you smell unburnt fuel vapours from your exhaust? If you stop by my condo, I can hook up the scanguage to read any stored DTC codes you may have.
10-29-2008, 10:21 PM
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Thx guys!!
We did a scan and it was a miss fire. Started up again and idling really rough and really bad gas smell so turned it off. Towing it to the dealership tomorrow. Hope it is covered since I only just had the plugs and wires done by the dealership this last June.
We did a scan and it was a miss fire. Started up again and idling really rough and really bad gas smell so turned it off. Towing it to the dealership tomorrow. Hope it is covered since I only just had the plugs and wires done by the dealership this last June.
10-30-2008, 05:19 AM
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You're correct Jay, I sold the SB. I love the ignition mod!
10-30-2008, 06:02 AM
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405 shipped! thats a good deal, it would cost that for stock coils alone, would it not? i think they are about 100 a peice IIRC. and marc, good luck dealing with the dealership.
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