Thumper3322

HELP HELP HELP!!

Wondering if anyone has the same issue. I seem to notice this much more since it is colder out.

Every morning around 7:15am I start my 8 up (manual), let it warm up for approx. 5 min while I have a smoke. I back out of the drive way and put it into first rev up the rpms to 3000rpmish at the same time letting out the clutch slowly to a full release and then it starts to drop the rpms fast like it's gonna stall. Push the clutch in rev up some more and away she goes chugging a bit then she's good to go.

I only seem to experience this in the morning. Not sure if it's because of the temperature drop or what and wondering if anyone else has experienced the same thing.

Any input would be great!
Thx!!


***bad update!!!**

I just got off my train, started my car and let it warm up 2-3 minutes, back up put it in first and the rpm dropped again. I could barely move. Then YES the CEL came on ***! I got home barely opened the hood and the was smoke coming out. WTF!! ANYONE HELP PZ!!

**UPDATE**

Well the coils are not covered and they HIGHLY recommend I don't drive the car until they are fixed. It's now been 6 days without my car, when this should have been all done and figured out last Friday (at the latest). I have asked to speak to the service manager when I get there.

I am going to have my 8 towed backed to my house where it will sit until my used OEM coils are delivered and installed (I hope to hell this weekend!!!!!!! ).

BTW - a high flow cat is only $450us, and an OEM one is only $1200us. Where they were gonna charge me $2000++.

Coils installed $426 how the hell is that? OEM coils for $28us each = $112us. So a $300 plus mark up on these things and labour. It is NOT a 2 hour job!!! CRAZY

So in a wrap up:

First initial call from Ajax Mazda quote $3,050ish (CAT supposedly not covered under warranty).

I had to do the research to prove the CAT is under warranty.

Won't cover the coils.

They did the compression test for free, which was an argument about being covered in the first place.

Now my battery is dead!! They said because I had trouble starting it lol...what a load of ****!

Total cost so far was to diagnose the problem $98 plus tax.

Thief

No CELs?

Thumper3322

Nope none at all. once it gets going it is fine

GTConversion

Sounds pretty standard.. I've never had a car that liked getting going in the morning, even after being warmed up. I think I have to give about 500-800 more RPM than I would usually to start moving in the morning.

Rems31

are you on a hill?? :-P

Thumper3322

Agree, but don't think my old manual car did this. I can't even remember if it was doing the same thing last winter.

It's a slight incline I guess, but don't think that's it. I do my best not to rev it to hard when it is just warming up.

Kafka

Thumper...best way to warm up your car is to drive slowly and rev less than 4k...not idling for 5min and smoke a *** man.

You got more wear and tire idling than driving slowly...

Thumper3322

Thanks man! and I do that as well after I let it idle for a bit. I have read lots on here about taking care of our cars, and one thing I have read is to let our car's idle to warm up a least for a few minutes before driving them. If this is wrong please correct me.

But I like my ****, kinda why I like u

Rotary Mike

I only let me car idle in the morning until it stops idling around 2000rpm and returns closer to 1000. Then I pull away with no problems.

My Blue is better then yours

Kafka

lol ****! :P

Some FYI articles

dozer

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damn 3k rpm you must have a heavy foot...i only rev to about 1k then slowly let off the clutch

Kafka

Vehicle Warm-Up, Natural Resources Canada

Smokin_LaLa

^ Kafka is correct, never let your car just sit there and Idle especially in the winter, people think that idling their car will warm up the car and the climate control. They don't realize that when you start driving the car it warms it up faster.

mysql

when your leading coils are dying, you'll find that the car will want to stall at low rpms, so you end up having to rev it up higher to prevent it from bogging. If it's the coils, this issue will slowly get worse till you're forced to go to 4k range to move the car without it stalling.

prospectjtaz

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I agree with mysql, I assumed it was your coils, its up at above 100K, and Mazda ever says replace your coils in the maintenance schedule, yet guys on this forum know you should do it at 50K if you can.

I think its time for ignition mod.

Thumper3322

cool thx guys!! I will do the the ignition mod if it gets worse. Once it's warmed up no problems tho, it's only first thing in the morning.

Pros have you done the ignition mod?

Footman

iTrader: (2)

Rx8thunder did the Mazsport ignition coil upgrade. I think afterwards, he decided to sell it cause he didn't like it?

mysql

Proper ignition upgrade that doesn't require tuning to function:

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/bhrs-ignition-system-offerings-145128/

prospectjtaz

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Haha no, i think he sold the sprintbooster. No one would sell an ignition mod. I could be wrong I dont dwell the FS forum too much. But ya, if it was warm enough I would come by and just check the coils for you. Maybe ask Al, he might have an idea.

prospectjtaz

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wow, its out now. I blew the cash I had for that on useless stuff. Like I said best bang for buck mods, Accessport, Midpipe and Ignition Mod and you will toast have the 8s on this forum.

TheBurkeMan

when the engine is warmed up it idles around 800 rpm..ish. when it's cold it idles at about 2000 rpm...ish.

so when you go to let out the clutch when it's idling at 2000 the rmp dropping is going to be much more noticable. maybe that's all it is.

i have the same thing happen to me in the mornings when it's about 30 degrees outside. later on when i get in my car abou 65-70 degrees i dont notice anything.

Footman

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I followed thelink, and even watched the video you posted. The npeople started posting about wanting "option 3, and option 1, and 4 etc.. etc..."

I refer to the first post, and it doesn't mention that. What are these options people are talking about?

mysql

he was going to sell it with different coils and stuff. He's since narrowed down what he offers. Everyone wanted the GM coils (what people upgrade corvettes with) as they would perform as good if not better than the more expensive coils. And the new coils even have heat sinks on them.

$370 including wires, coils, brackets, etc.

Looks like I'll get mine mid Nov.

Ka Kui

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I am going to store my FD very soon, and my RX-8 is my daily driver car now, every morning i start it up, the Engine oil level light is on for like 20 secs, then it goes off. I checked the engine oil level on the dipstick, it's not near low......... is it due to the cold weather, cold start or something? Anyone got this happen as well??

mysql

oil sensor gone bad? I think there's a TSB for this, but maybe I'm confusing it with the coolant sensor tsb..