Thumper3322

WTF!!! u guys are intense!!

hippak

Yeah Footman it does work.

Just one note. Using the quarter mile figure to extrapolate the average maximum acceleration of the rx-8 isn't the best way to go about things. The rate of acceleration starts to decrease at higher speeds. If prospectjtaz had actually reached the rx-8 quatermile trapping speed then this would work. But since he never reached it his overall average acceleration would have been much higher between 0 to 70km/h at wide open throttle in comparison to average acceleration at wide open throttle in a quarter mile. Get what i'm saying?

An acceleration rate of 1.25m/s^2 isn't spectacular at all. I'm sure almost any car on the road can achieve that. Prospectjtaz you need to actually speed up a bit. You're really slowing traffic down when you take 150meters to get to 70km/h

When the time comes and if you guys need an engineer to sign off on this physics stuff let me know and I will.

Footman

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Hippak, you a P.Eng already? I need 2 more years!

prospectjtaz

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Awesome, I was going through the kinematics myself, that 150 M displacement doesn't make sense.

Kafka

physics for the matafakin win!

P.S: Obviously I am not a physics / eng major lol

Oh wait I got a Math degree from Waterloo LOL WTF

I can prove that the cop is wrong and it will be a NP complete question for him to prove that I am wrong ...

Footman

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Good point Hippak, you are right about that. Maybe it's best in the case to just stop after we've proven the two different average acceleration rates and then say that those are so far off from each other already that it can't even be close to being considered street racing.

I was trying to use that value to work backwards to further substantiate what would have been an approximate speed if they were gunning it at the point they reach 150m.

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It could also be said that the C&D time was most likely performed with a clutch drop at some high rpm which would result in some wheelspin (tire chirping/slippage). The cop's statement clearly said that there was no wheel-spin/chirp from either of Jay/Eddie's cars.

Footman

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Hippak, we can use the C&D chart database review of the 2004 Mazda RX-8 performance data.
That chart has info kinda like the route you took to prove the caravan. it's got data for 0 - 40, 0 - 50mph, etc...

Using an average acceleration value from one of those limits would be a lot closer to what Jay/Eddie has around the 70km/h range. Furthermore, those values were made by documented professional data, and were done with maximum power. It should be good evidence.

How does a judge take into understanding scientific data if it's brought up in court? He/she isn't actually gonna sit there and let you explain the math right?

Kafka

Actually Footman, you can cross examine the cop and then asked if he is confirmed what he said, then present this evidence and get it signed by any P.Eng as evidence of the physics and the flaw in his logic.

This will really **** that dumb hot-shot probably highschool drop out cop right there.

And yes, I am being hateful...I respect police when they are doing their duties with honar and brains...not when they are on power trip.

alnielsen

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In the States, you could probably sue him for false arrest and abuse of power.

prospectjtaz

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You guys see Fantino's new ride?

Footman

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WOW, so that's where all the ticket money went.

R.P.M.

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Seriously? There is no logical explaination for the OPP to have a Maserati

Sanguine

If that was his personal car, I'd key it. It's probably exclusively his to drive on and off shift but still owned by the OPP so they would foot the bill. Meaning 'we' would foot the bill.

ShinkaTeen

im pissed off just reading about this.