NorCal Dyno Day With BHR and MM?
08-03-2008, 12:42 AM
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Thank you for taking the time in tuning our RX-8's. I appreciate all of the time and effort that you have contributed to the RX-8 community.
Scott,
Thank you for organizing this event.
Matt,
Thanks for the PIZZA and movie date.
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08-03-2008, 12:47 AM
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Jeff is indeed the man, his speed and efficiency is amazing working on these cars. also props to scott for organizing it and keeping it organized.
I had a real good time meeting everyone and checking out your cars.
I had a real good time meeting everyone and checking out your cars.
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08-03-2008, 01:35 AM
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I zoom therefore I am.
08-03-2008, 03:36 AM
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I was nice meeting all of you guys! Jeff you are the man thanks for coming out nice meeting you and thanks for telling me about the coils I got home jumped on the computer and bought some new coils should be here in a week or so. Matt thanks for the pizza also. So what numbers scott put out?
08-03-2008, 01:41 PM
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a MUSTANG dyno on the other hand will shatter a lot of people dreams, kinda like it did when the guys dyno'd down south.
Dyno's should really only be used for tuning, too many variables can change them to use them to accurately compare someones power level, but it does give you a ballpark figure. If you thought your numbers were low on they DynoJet stay AWAY from our Dyno here at FFTec. Some of the numbers you'll get would make you wanna stop modding.
08-03-2008, 03:11 PM
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dynojet does suppose to run higher, but for some reason, i wont say this dynojet runs low, but i think it runs the same as the mustang dyno which i had in FullFunction before!
PS. thanks Jeff for all your help! you are the man!!
PS. thanks Jeff for all your help! you are the man!!
08-03-2008, 07:09 PM
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I zoom therefore I am.
I didnt go to the dyno for a number. I went for a tune and the dyno helped MM dial in the tune.
If I wanted a dyno queen I would not have bought an RX8
If I wanted a dyno queen I would not have bought an RX8
08-03-2008, 07:21 PM
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08-03-2008, 11:12 PM
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As far as my numbers, I was at around 250-260 HP at 7K RPM and it was running pig rich, 10 to 1 or less I believe and jeff never worked on the timing. So when I get it dialed in 300+ HP should be no problem. Once I get the MAF set up and find some time I will probably start a thread about the procharger.
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08-03-2008, 11:14 PM
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Thanks for the props. Like I said, I needed Jeff to come out and tune my car so the timing was perfect so I was happy to orginize it.
Again I am thankfull everyone showed up and brought there money. I just issued 5 refunds to a few people that paid extra. The final cost was $185 per MM-ap customer, $240 for non-MM ap customers and of course $50 for dyno only. If you paid more then that I did not just get a refund then please PM me.
Oh, i had nothing to do with the pizza, that was all laythor. i did have stand-by burgers to grill in case Jeff needed more food before tunning my car but Matt brought more then enough pizza (if that is possible).
Someone else brought drinks, I want to say it was Toneskii707.
Again I am thankfull everyone showed up and brought there money. I just issued 5 refunds to a few people that paid extra. The final cost was $185 per MM-ap customer, $240 for non-MM ap customers and of course $50 for dyno only. If you paid more then that I did not just get a refund then please PM me.
Oh, i had nothing to do with the pizza, that was all laythor. i did have stand-by burgers to grill in case Jeff needed more food before tunning my car but Matt brought more then enough pizza (if that is possible).
Someone else brought drinks, I want to say it was Toneskii707.
08-04-2008, 12:31 AM
#346
Could you have possibly made a more ignorant statement than that?
First of all, the DNA kit is no Pettit system. Its very well thought out, very well put together and properly set up for what it is.
Scott's choice of system was also very carefully measured - he knew exactly what he wanted and what this system can do (and can't do).
Second, the "turbo" crowd is brighter than that - certainly brighter than your "supercharger" crowd. They know that air is air and that is all there is to it.
I dont want to spend too much time defending the kit and the turbo guys can flame me all they want. Fact is, not every turbo is running over 300 HP and over 200 FT lbs of torque. Many are but not all. This kit will be faster then a lot of turbo cars and I like it for what it is, a great track car and a good street car.
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08-04-2008, 12:49 AM
#347
Yeah. We are going to flame him.
Could you have possibly made a more ignorant statement than that?
First of all, the DNA kit is no Pettit system. Its very well thought out, very well put together and properly set up for what it is.
Scott's choice of system was also very carefully measured - he knew exactly what he wanted and what this system can do (and can't do).
Second, the "turbo" crowd is brighter than that - certainly brighter than your "supercharger" crowd. They know that air is air and that is all there is to it.
I think it will make 300 HP at least.
Yep.
Could you have possibly made a more ignorant statement than that?
First of all, the DNA kit is no Pettit system. Its very well thought out, very well put together and properly set up for what it is.
Scott's choice of system was also very carefully measured - he knew exactly what he wanted and what this system can do (and can't do).
Second, the "turbo" crowd is brighter than that - certainly brighter than your "supercharger" crowd. They know that air is air and that is all there is to it.
I think it will make 300 HP at least.
Yep.
08-04-2008, 01:24 AM
#348
There is a difference between a bad kit and a bad concept.
There is a long road between a good idea and a good execution.
Every device - centrifugal supercharger, positive displacement supercharger, turbocharger, whatever - has an operating envelope which can be known.
Then you can mate that with your own desired conditions and decide how to proceed.
However, then you need to execute.
The "flaming" for that kit has always been and always will be the same - it is a poor choice for a street-driven car and will produce little or no gain in performance in normal driving ranges. That has in no way changed.
Scott bought this kit because he didn't care about the ranges in which this kit is a poor performer. He only cared about the ranges in which it performs well - at high RPM.
You know, I'm going to stop here. I just don't have the patience to spoon feed you or anyone else at this point.
The differences between systems and devices should be obvious. The differences in build quality between the various kits should apparent to just about anyone with working eyes.
For anyone that can't make the logical connection between concept and execution, you just don't deserve to have it explained to you. Go buy a bicycle.
