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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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They said, it couldnt be built- FT-86

"bu bu bu but the economy, no way toyota is going to make a affordable sports car."
who ever said that, i have news for you

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Toyota and Subaru have been collaborating for some time on a jointly developed sport coupe model. Now, we get a preview of the FT-86 Concept, which is set to debut at the Tokyo motor show later this month.

The sport coupe's dimensions are fairly compact with a length of 4,16 meters and a height of 1,26 m (width and wheelbase are 1,76 and 2,57 meters, respectively) and a low center of gravity. The FT-86 was created by Toyota's Europe Design Development and it's objective was to fashion a car with a "functional utility" design theme.

Uncharacteristic for the times, this concept does not feature any new technology of the hybrid or electric kind. The goal for both Japanese automakers was to create a sports model that is simple, fun-to-drive and fuel efficient. The FT-86 will feature Subaru's 2.0 liter Boxer gasoline/petrol engine, which develops only 160 hp, although, there have been hints that it may be dialed up to about 200. It also uses a 6-speed manual transmission and ADVICS brakes.

We can only guess that the FT-86's agility and speed will come from a low curb weight. We will just have to wait for the numbers on that.











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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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looks good any specs?
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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That back is gorgeous, but kinda falls apart at the front for me... if they didn't do that Prius-esque indentation down the middle of the hood and just left it flat it would be purrrfect... if very similar to a Genesis... good to finally see it in the flesh though..
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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so far its 160hp, but i am hoping that will change over time. especially if toyota wants to compete against Hyundai. curious what the weight will be also.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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i like it! 160hp is hopelessly underpowered tho.. that's TC range -_-
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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All I see is a 350z in the front. But the fact that it's going to be built is good enough for me.

It's a 2L boxer engine from Subaru. 160HP pfffttt, I'm sure that won't mean much to owners of this car when they figure things out.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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Looks sharp, but def needs way more than 160. If they're making a sports coupe again to look like a flagship car for Toyota 160 isn't cutting it. Rx8 barely pulls it off with 230ish
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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well scoobs take well to turbocharging power won't be a problem eventually...i see these things being monsters within a few years...i like this car and can't wait to see more.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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Looks nice. Hope it's lightweight.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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It's amazing how the almost 7 yr old design elements of the RX8 like the carved wheel arces are just being intergrated in new designs.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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please dont start this fanboi 'rx8 is responsible for every sports car design element ****' its just not true
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 8sumthin
It's amazing how the almost 7 yr old design elements of the RX8 like the carved wheel arces are just being intergrated in new designs.
I saw an old Corvette with flared wheel arches.

Just sayin.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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It looks pretty good. I assume this is the fabled toyoberu. Looks better then anything toyota had made in years. The brakes look cool and just like the brakes on my R6. Anyway, lightless is more important then power but even if it is light 160hp is not enough. How long before the ej25 gets stuffed in there? Hopefully not too long cuz that would be a potent killer of a car.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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this looks great. it's supposedly built off the impreza platform and powered by the same ej whatever flat 4. if they can kick it in at the same price as the hyundai genesis, this'll be real sweet. the best part, tho, may be that cars like this may push mazda to produce something like the kabura
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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I'm pretty stoked on this new car, I want to test drive it. I see them offering a turbo version by the time they release it.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Hm, Jalopnik said 200-250hp? It's a 2.0L Boxer engine in the Toyota version, no info yet on the Subie version...

More pictures! http://jalopnik.com/5375233/toyota-f...yline=true&s=x



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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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This with the JDM STI engine would be a beast.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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That is sweet.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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I really like that side profile. Very nice lookin.

Even if did come with only 200 hp, I think that would be great for a sports car. If it is lightweight, it would be a fun car for sure. (3000lb max)
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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looks practically identical to the GT-R from the side...



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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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^^^^ that was my first thought too, very GTR-esque and also reminds me of an IS-F or some type of lexus.

looks prettty good though!
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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The interior is.. special. I wouldn't want to be caught in one of these.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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My buddy who has been following this pretty closely says the toyota model will not come to America. The Subaru version will however and is supposed to be turbo'd and have around 250hp. That's the rumor anyways.
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My buddy who has been following this pretty closely says the toyota model will not come to America. The Subaru version will however and is supposed to be turbo'd and have around 250hp. That's the rumor anyways.
The rumor I've heard is that it is Toyota that'll bring it to NA while Subaru sells their version in Japan.

Being an AE86 owner myself, I'm glad to see The Brand Of Bland finally coming out with something exciting. Had I not bought an RX-8 earlier this year, I would probably be saving what money I could scrounge (it's expensive keeping the old Corolla running) for one.

Also, per Edmunds.com's Inside Line, the FT-86 will supposedly get Subaru's next-gen 2.0L, so I'm a bit more optimistic on the 200hp mark.

I like the styling. It's a bit too aggressive, but I'm sure it'll be toned down in the production model. I am not a fan of dual exhausts on a FOUR-CYLINDER! I like the driver-oriented instruments and controls, but there's a bit too much style for style's sake (c'mon, zippers?). Like the exterior, I'm sure this will be toned down in the production model.

I assure you, however good this car could or will be, I will not be trading up the 8 for it.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gripen
The rumor I've heard is that it is Toyota that'll bring it to NA while Subaru sells their version in Japan.

Being an AE86 owner myself, I'm glad to see The Brand Of Bland finally coming out with something exciting. Had I not bought an RX-8 earlier this year, I would probably be saving what money I could scrounge (it's expensive keeping the old Corolla running) for one.

Also, per Edmunds.com's Inside Line, the FT-86 will supposedly get Subaru's next-gen 2.0L, so I'm a bit more optimistic on the 200hp mark.

I like the styling. It's a bit too aggressive, but I'm sure it'll be toned down in the production model. I am not a fan of dual exhausts on a FOUR-CYLINDER! I like the driver-oriented instruments and controls, but there's a bit too much style for style's sake (c'mon, zippers?). Like the exterior, I'm sure this will be toned down in the production model.

I assure you, however good this car could or will be, I will not be trading up the 8 for it.
i dont see that. but IMO, if they had to choose between what country gets what. then Japan will get the trueno or levin , so they can compete against nissan silvia, and the US gets the subbie.

out of all my friends in japan, me and another friend out of 25, went with mazda (after our graduations of trueno, carina, and levins) the rest went went nissan.

Now that was back in early to mid 90’s. but after AE86, there is no car to move to the next Toyota.

AE100 is FF, AE 101 is FF. only thing FR was supra, chaser, mark2, but with drifting, supra is nice but expensive also. Chaser and mark 2 are nice, but its more like if you want to be in pimp mode , but also want to drift.

Which is why FC, and S13-S14 are so popular there. If Toyota had a car was TC ,FR during the early –mid 90's, I would of gotten one over a FC. Because one AE100 is a nice looking car for its time.

but going with FF since 1992 was a dumb move by Toyota. All the ppl who owned AE86 went to Nissan. So i see toyota going with FT86 for japan, especially if nissan decides to make a new silvia. AE86 is a good starter car, but its nothing special. which is why i am amazed how overly hyped this car is in the US.

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