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Old 11-08-2010, 02:21 PM
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Oh my god. I will never ever ever live in Texas.

(watch, in five years I'll be living in Texas)

Oh I have gotten her hotter doing canyon runs in similar temps. Now you know why I went with a bigger single oil cooler
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Oh I have gotten her hotter doing canyon runs in similar temps. Now you know why I went with a bigger single oil cooler
You have a single oil cooler with more surface area than the duals it comes with?
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Originally Posted by fyrstormer
The OP lives in Texas and rotaries bleed heat like crazy. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he just had all the coolant evaporate out of the overflow bottle.
It's been relatively cool the last few weeks... highest we've seen is 80's and maybe hit 90 once or twice. Shouldn't have been enough to cause his problem as I drove my 8 in much warmer conditions without a problem. As far as I know, most the other members here in SA haven't had an issue either.
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You have a single oil cooler with more surface area than the duals it comes with?
Yep, 28" Fluidyne





https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...gle+oil+cooler

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Sorry for thread res.. just wanted to add that I get this -all- the time.

The coolant will come on during cold/warm/hot days anywhere from 30 F outside to 100F+, and can trigger anywhere above 3,000 RPMs, if I shift to neutral and let it idle, it goes away.

I've taken it to the dealership and Pettit, they can't find anything wrong. OBD2 stats always show normal temps, even when the light comes on.

So far it's a complete mystery.

I do have 40k miles though.
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My coolant light came on at ~9000 miles. I went to Mazda to get a bottle of coolant, and it filled up with less than 1/2 cup. Now I have an annoying full bottle of coolant in the back of my car.

FWIW though, I park at an angle with the nose dipping and this is probably why it came on in the first place.

3 months later and it hasn't budged a bit. I am sure it just evaporated out the bottle.
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
Sorry for thread res.. just wanted to add that I get this -all- the time.

The coolant will come on during cold/warm/hot days anywhere from 30 F outside to 100F+, and can trigger anywhere above 3,000 RPMs, if I shift to neutral and let it idle, it goes away.

I've taken it to the dealership and Pettit, they can't find anything wrong. OBD2 stats always show normal temps, even when the light comes on.

So far it's a complete mystery.

I do have 40k miles though.
Originally Posted by amdhunter
My coolant light came on at ~9000 miles. I went to Mazda to get a bottle of coolant, and it filled up with less than 1/2 cup. Now I have an annoying full bottle of coolant in the back of my car.

FWIW though, I park at an angle with the nose dipping and this is probably why it came on in the first place.

3 months later and it hasn't budged a bit. I am sure it just evaporated out the bottle.
Assuming confirmed good level of fluid, it'd be a bad sensor in the reservoir bottle; go get the bottle replaced.

http://finishlineperformance.com/sto...cat=336&page=1
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
The coolant will come on during cold/warm/hot days anywhere from 30 F outside to 100F+, and can trigger anywhere above 3,000 RPMs, if I shift to neutral and let it idle, it goes away.
Had the exact same problem. Bad sensor in the expansion tank. Dealer will replace it for free if you're under 50k so get it done before you get there.
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^^^ @ Maskedferret Finally someone said something... I was waiting for this lol
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Originally Posted by maskedferret
Assuming confirmed good level of fluid, it'd be a bad sensor in the reservoir bottle; go get the bottle replaced.

http://finishlineperformance.com/sto...cat=336&page=1
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Had the exact same problem. Bad sensor in the expansion tank. Dealer will replace it for free if you're under 50k so get it done before you get there.

Mm, the dealer did offer to replace the bottle, but they said it'd cost me 400$ and wasn't a guaranteed fix.
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
Sorry for thread res.. just wanted to add that I get this -all- the time.

The coolant will come on during cold/warm/hot days anywhere from 30 F outside to 100F+, and can trigger anywhere above 3,000 RPMs, if I shift to neutral and let it idle, it goes away.

I've taken it to the dealership and Pettit, they can't find anything wrong. OBD2 stats always show normal temps, even when the light comes on.

So far it's a complete mystery.

I do have 40k miles though.
that is absolutely ******* pitiful. In both cases. I wouldnt go near either of them again.

The issue you have is a well known problem that there is even a TSB for. The sensor is bad, you cant do anything to clean it, or replace it alone. You can only replace the whole reservoir. This will not FIX the problem, it will only make it go away until the new reservoir/sensor goes bad. The problem is a poor design.

the permanent fix is to simply unplug the sensor. light will never come on again, and has no adverse affects

Dealerships are retarded half the time anyway. Un-f*cking-believable that Pettit doesnt have the marbles in their head to know this, and their supposed to be considered a respected shop...

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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
Mm, the dealer did offer to replace the bottle, but they said it'd cost me 400$ and wasn't a guaranteed fix.
Eeew! I got mine replaced under extended warranty; $100 deposit and the problem went away. Split that $400 out on labor, knowing you can get the part elsewhere? Consider doing it yourself or getting some help?

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This will not FIX the problem, it will only make it go away until the new reservoir/sensor goes bad. The problem is a poor design.

the permanent fix is to simply unplug the sensor. light will never come on again, and has no adverse affects
My understanding from some of the other threads floating around is the latest revision (M) seems to have finally fixed it proper. I'm about a year out from having it last fixed and fine so far; curious which revision I have.

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Originally Posted by paulmasoner
Un-f*cking-believable that Pettit doesnt have the marbles in their head to know this, and their supposed to be considered a respected shop...

To be fair, at the time I took it to Pettit, it was only happening during extended high speed driving, and from basic testing (putting car on a lift and rev'ing), they deduced that it could be caused by the coolant level dropping below the sensor when RPMs went above 6k.

The dealership though, I took it in when it started happening at any speed/RPM randomly.


You wouldn't happen to have the link to the TSB? So I can show to the dealership or reference it so they can fix it.
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
You wouldn't happen to have the link to the TSB? So I can show to the dealership or reference it so they can fix it.
People in this thread saying "TSB forthcoming": https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-trouble-shooting-95/coolant-light-dash-118947/

Rosenthal Mazda's TSB list doesn't show anything new yet.
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
To be fair, at the time I took it to Pettit, it was only happening during extended high speed driving, and from basic testing (putting car on a lift and rev'ing), they deduced that it could be caused by the coolant level dropping below the sensor when RPMs went above 6k.

The dealership though, I took it in when it started happening at any speed/RPM randomly.


You wouldn't happen to have the link to the TSB? So I can show to the dealership or reference it so they can fix it.
To be fair, any shop that has the reputation they do for focusing on rotary cars should know better. This is a pretty common problem.

I dont have a link, the place or two I know of that lists them arent exactly up to date. I suppose it is even possible it isnt published yet, but quite some time ago someone with close connections to Mazda made the statement that a TSB was forthcoming.

EDIT: the above post beat me to this^^...

Seriously though, if you can get them to replace it free, then go for it. Otherwise just unplug the sensor, because a new reservoir/sensor will eventually fail again leaving you in the same predicament. It will not cause any other issues(such as CEL) and you will never see the light again. And all you have to do it look at your level whenever you'r under the hood already.
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Originally Posted by fyrstormer
The OP lives in Texas and rotaries bleed heat like crazy. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he just had all the coolant evaporate out of the overflow bottle.
My '09 has about 22,000 miles on it now, and even after a summer driving around Palm Springs on the weekends, the coolant level is just about where it was when the car was new - none added.

I am curious to know what prompted the OP or the dealer to do a compression check at only 7,000 miles...
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Originally Posted by maskedferret
People in this thread saying "TSB forthcoming": https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=118947

Rosenthal Mazda's TSB list doesn't show anything new yet.
Originally Posted by paulmasoner
Seriously though, if you can get them to replace it free, then go for it. Otherwise just unplug the sensor, because a new reservoir/sensor will eventually fail again leaving you in the same predicament. It will not cause any other issues(such as CEL) and you will never see the light again. And all you have to do it look at your level whenever you'r under the hood already.
I'll check again with the dealership, but I'll just unhook it for now then, I've yet to see the coolant level drop since I got the car 40k miles ago, so I doubt it's going anywhere.

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Sorry about the thread-jack.. but yea I took mine in, said the coolant light kept coming on and the coolant level was fine. The tech said "oh ok you need a new bottle". I asked if it was under warranty. He said "as long as you're under 50,000 miles". Granted I do NOT have any kind of extended warranty. Only the original warranty which is 48 months 50,000 miles.
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I went to dealer today to replace my clutch, tried to ask for the bottle replacement, they told me it's not covered and they called Mazda to confirm it who also said it's not covered by the warranty.
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
I went to dealer today to replace my clutch, tried to ask for the bottle replacement, they told me it's not covered and they called Mazda to confirm it who also said it's not covered by the warranty.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-ii-technical-trouble-shooting-160/series-ii-tsbs-technical-service-bulletins-212228/

Check out the S2 TS Bulletins...

The Coolant Bottle replacement IS covered under warranty...provided...

This repair will be covered under Mazda’s New Vehicle Limited Warranty term.

I see this at a minimum of 3 years or 36,000 miles (not the Limited Powertrain Warranty of 5 years, 60K miles)....so if your car has done more than 36,000 miles, you unfortunately are not covered.

Edit...

After reading back..
I do have 40k miles though.
That is why you do not have a warranty on your coolant bottle..sorry.

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