Spring Rates
11-16-2005, 10:03 PM
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agree with iridearocket - mazdaspeed make a subtle difference in feel
I put on the full mspeed suspension setup (now even underbody braces, so really, pretty much the whole deal; only confounding variable being smaller
wheels and tires) and as far as "feel" goes, yeah, it's
tightens up on stock enough to make a noticeable difference
and make things overall a bit tighter, but it's not super-dramatic
and as far as ride goes it still seems it falls within the
comfortable but mildly "sporty" range as the stock car does
(which, remember, or at least IMHO, is scarcely targeted
at the sports-car demographic).
I may be wrong, but I doubt a passenger would notice much difference at all.
-1- Maybe the mazdaspeed spring rates quoted are wrong?
-2- Maybe ride "feel" really isn't that much affected by modest
(up to x2) changes in rate?
-3- Maybe other factors are as/more important than spring rate
in how a car drives.
I tend to supect #3 and #2 rather than #1.
Still, this raises the question: of the springs currently on the market, aside from coilovers: if you aren't getting them simply
for ride height, then why?
-ajg
wheels and tires) and as far as "feel" goes, yeah, it's
tightens up on stock enough to make a noticeable difference
and make things overall a bit tighter, but it's not super-dramatic
and as far as ride goes it still seems it falls within the
comfortable but mildly "sporty" range as the stock car does
(which, remember, or at least IMHO, is scarcely targeted
at the sports-car demographic).
I may be wrong, but I doubt a passenger would notice much difference at all.
-1- Maybe the mazdaspeed spring rates quoted are wrong?
-2- Maybe ride "feel" really isn't that much affected by modest
(up to x2) changes in rate?
-3- Maybe other factors are as/more important than spring rate
in how a car drives.
I tend to supect #3 and #2 rather than #1.
Still, this raises the question: of the springs currently on the market, aside from coilovers: if you aren't getting them simply
for ride height, then why?
-ajg
Last edited by ajg; 11-16-2005 at 10:09 PM.
11-16-2005, 11:25 PM
#27
Originally Posted by AlexCisneros
The engine is in the front. Look at the stock spring rates. They are also stiffer in the front. This can also lead to a push (understeer). Check the difference between the front and rear stock vs. the front and rear aftermarket. The back is stiffer to help promote neutral or oversteer condition usually associated with high performance driving characteristics
once agan you have to consider tha package, not just the spring rates. Swaybars, shock valving, etc. all figure into the equation.
I run a larger front swaybar only on a Stock class setup and I can still get the car loose (oversteer) with shock and tire pressure settings
now that I'm bailing out of Stock I don't mind revealing that IMO the RX-8 benefits greatly from having bump (compression) valving adjustment capability. This requires having double adjustable shocks with the appropriate valving and knowing how to adjust them properly.
Last edited by TeamRX8; 11-16-2005 at 11:30 PM.
11-07-2006, 05:37 PM
#32
I am a meat popcicle
Originally Posted by lesper4
This Is Already A Better One, Caleed "spring Springs Springs"
11-09-2006, 12:29 AM
#33
KW Variant 3 coils overs:
575 lb F
400-450 R which is progressive
Adjustable top and bottom.
Addtional canister resoviour to reduce heat exhaustion.
2" front lowered and 1.8" Rear lowered max!
575 lb F
400-450 R which is progressive
Adjustable top and bottom.
Addtional canister resoviour to reduce heat exhaustion.
2" front lowered and 1.8" Rear lowered max!
Last edited by Razz1; 11-09-2006 at 12:41 AM.
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