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Turbo 8 first start up and won't idle

Old Apr 26, 2013 | 09:28 PM
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This seal met the same fate as yours ........



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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 09:34 PM
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you said your water temp was always about 190 degrees. How are you measuring it, oe sensor or rb?

typical rb sensor placement requires you add about 10-20 degrees to get the temp coming out of the engine.
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
This seal met the same fate as yours ........



I have a feeling its dead also. I'm going to get the compression checked and go from there.

Originally Posted by ShellDude
you said your water temp was always about 190 degrees. How are you measuring it, oe sensor or rb?

typical rb sensor placement requires you add about 10-20 degrees to get the temp coming out of the engine.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 04:41 PM
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Well the results are in, rotor one has no compression. The plan now is to put it in storage and tear it apart this summer when I get some free time. I will be sending the shortblock out to be rebuilt and will hopefully have it back in the car at the end of summer/ early fall. I am planning to try the turbo setup again but will be going about the tuning a bit differently. Thanks for the help guys, I'll see you all in a few months.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 06:12 PM
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Sorry to hear that . Obviously there was some detonation at some stage .
suggest aftermarket apex seals for your build if you are planning on staying turbo. Dowels are a good idea as well ....
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Old May 4, 2013 | 08:10 PM
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Thanks Brettus, will look in to both of your suggestions.
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Old Aug 2, 2013 | 12:03 AM
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So turns out I had what seems to be an oil starvation issue, this is what my rebuilder had to say.

"It looks to me like you've had an oil starvation issue. The front main bearing was wiped out, which is the first to run dry in a low oil situation. It subsequently sent material into the front rotor bearing and chewed it up, and of course the shaft journals are bad as well. The rotor bearing allowed the rotor to have extra play which caused the rotor to rub the iron faces of the front and middle iron."

Anyways I should have the engine back and in the car within the next month or so if things go according to schedule ( like usual ). Will start a new thread during that time.
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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 01:41 AM
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starting a new thread yet? updates??
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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Never got around to making a new thread, I have made progress on the car however. At this point I have made a few changes to the setup but nothing drastic. I got the new engine in the car along with the turbo setup, just a few minor things to button up before it is totally ready. The plan is to fire it up while I'm home for thanksgiving break. I will probably start a new thread then.

this is what it looks like now.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 10:07 AM
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Cool, why did you mount the inter cooler like that?
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 11:14 AM
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Figured I'd try it. The one I had before was pretty beat up and I got this for a steal so why not. I like the fact that it won't be blocking the rad and that it will be less visible than a vertical mounted one once the bumper is on. My plan is to eventually make aluminum ducting for it to better direct airflow.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 11:15 AM
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Cool, why did you mount the inter cooler like that?
^^^ Was about to say the exact same thing...
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 11:34 AM
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without an undertray i feel as if it would get decent flow. Just speculating though
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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Well, it is designed to function a certain way. The only way that would work is with a serious fan on it. But in Wiscompton I doubt it will be an issue anytime soon.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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how do you feel it would work on track days scott? I've been trying to figure out a way to combat coolant temps and I bet with a front mount sticking out there it wouldn't make things any better. I guess some testing would be in order
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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Well it's more about the sum of parts than just that. With Good fans, good rad, tstat, water pump, ducting, etc. it may work okay. Not ideal though. Ideally a proper v mount with ducting and a sum of good parts is the way to go.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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Well I don't really plan on tracking the car hard, just a few track days each summer at the most so I don't think its really going to be an issue. The plan is to run it with no under tray and aluminum ducting to direct the incoming air. I guess we will see how well it works ( or doesn't) when the time comes.

I got the idea from here:

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-maj...-207929/page4/
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 03:17 PM
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Yeah I guess if you duct it, and have air exit under the car it would work to pass thru the intercooler, but I would think that would have a negative effect on the aero at high speeds. JETS3T8's car was/is not a track car AFAIK.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 03:25 PM
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Yeah I could see how it would negatively effect aero. But this isn't a big area of concern for me as I won't be driving at high speeds for extended periods of time . Theres different pros and cons for each setup, I guess I'm doing what I think will best suit my needs.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 03:56 PM
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Have you thought of running a smaller intercooler and angling it? The one you have is huge and likely not a quality unit. You could even add an intercooler sprayer as well.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 03:59 PM
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Actually I take that back, the SFR kit actually uses a quality Bell intercooler.

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Yours does not appear to be the intercooler that comes with the SFR kit, it looks like the cheap Ebay ones that come in kits like the Hymee, etc.
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 01:29 PM
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I have tossed around the idea of an intercooler sprayer but thats something I will look in to further once I get the car running properly. Also trying to angle the intercooler down more to get better flow is hard because its already very low to the ground as is. I do think it is possible however I just need to spend some time on it.

On another note, I will hopefully be going down to storage to fire it up tonight if all goes according to plan.
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 02:55 PM
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So I finally made a new thread to document my build, If any of your are interested in checking it out here is the link.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-maj...roject-250915/
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 03:15 PM
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That looks like alot of fuel. double check your injector wiring and placement. also make sure your ESS sensor is clean and not bent out of place. Did you do the 20 pedal stomp before start up? I have also seen many of these issues do to small vacuum leaks.
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